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    Quote Originally Posted by gorezilla1 View Post
    We'd been at t13 for 6 weeks and weren't making progress (hadn't seen terraflare). I am a smn with 5975 hp and our blm had about 5950 hp. Sometimes people (even the monk with 6500hp) would randomly die to the stacked megaflare and I told the sch to use a succor.
    Dragon Kick
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    6K on casters, 6.5K on non-casters
    Succor
    Sacred Soil

    You need at least two of these things. 5500 HP on casters and 6K HP on non-casters is fine but you need DK and SP up to consistently survive. People honestly exaggerate how much HP you need in T13 if the debuffs are up and people don't mess up, though more HP definitely keeps it lenient on how topped off people have to be for every Megaflare and other select times (final phase Mega > tower, tether hits, Rage with 2 stacks), though all situations an i110 HP player would die SCH can make sure they won't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    You need at least two of these things. 5500 HP on casters and 6K HP on non-casters is fine but you need DK and SP up. People honestly exaggerate how much HP you need in T13 if the debuffs are up and people don't mess up, though more HP definitely keeps it lenient on how topped off people have to be for every Megaflare and other select times (final phase Mega > tower, tether hits, Rage with 2 stacks), though all situations an i110 HP player would die SCH can make sure they won't.
    Aside from making the healer's job easier, it eases up mechanics more. Prime example being Flare Star. Rage of Bahamut hits me, as a white mage, for somewhere between 5900 and 6100 damage with storm's path and dragon kick up if I have two stacks. While you could argue someone shouldn't be getting two stacks, the tank may not make it in time due to the distance or you get hit by one by accident due to the explosion radius. Playing cops&robbers with a flare star as a DPS would also lead to DPS loss. This is an exceptional pain to deal with for the more popular meta where groups bring two melees to meet the DPS check. If no one has the HP to survive a rage with two stacks, it could potentially mean a wipe. Especially if there are two or more with two stacks up as you can't stoneskin or adloquium everyone with two stacks, get the party to a certain health range, have those with two stacks and the tank(s) topped off. There are several things to deal with between after megaflares and rage.

    Also, while Sleigh mentioned you to "pick two", you can't have Dragon Kick or Storm's Path up during Megaflare Dives. This limits you to Succor and the health requirement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    Also, while Sleigh mentioned you to "pick two", you can't have Dragon Kick or Storm's Path up during Megaflare Dives. This limits you to Succor and the health requirement.
    Soil and Succor make it do-able in i110.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    Especially if there are two or more with two stacks up as you can't stoneskin or adloquium everyone with two stacks, get the party to a certain health range, have those with two stacks and the tank(s) topped off. There are several things to deal with between after megaflares and rage.
    Two non-tanks with 2 stacks for Rage is quite easy to handle, between PLD SS, WHM SS, Succor, and Adlo, regardless of max HP. 3 or more people getting 2 stacks, IMO that group deserves to wipe that pull.
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    Last edited by Sleigh; 01-20-2015 at 12:26 PM.

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