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  1. #101
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    Falcus's Avatar
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    Ineli Falcus
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    Can't say I've really had problems with instantly getting hate from a single cure, but tonight, now THAT was screwy enmity.
    Mages being attacked while they had GREEN ENMITY and the tank still had FLASHING RED ENMITY.
    Apparently the mobs don't always go for whoever has the highest enmity >_>

    It's the first time I've seen it happen, but it was annoying.
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  2. #102
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    Zavier Mhigo
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    Enmity is not screwed at all. Mobs and NMs like Uraeus and Bardi have hate resetting abilities, this is outside of the tanks control. this is up to SE to change. Do not blame the battle system to SE giving mobs hate resetting abilities. Also if all tanks have that mrd ability that gives them more base enmity for every action they do, and they are allowed to get in the first action, there should be no problem....unless....THAT MOB HAS A HATE resetting ability. Not saying it isn't annoying, buts its not our enmity calculations fault, its the mobs...or SE for making the mob have that ability.
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  3. #103
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    Gotta agree with that, personally the more I play the more I like the changes.
    As i said in my last post, the only enmity problem I've had was when I literally had flashing red enmity, yet I wasn't being attacked, and the mob was attacking someone who had green enmity.
    I also like the fact that mages can't just go on an AoE healing spree now and that enmity management is now party based, and not all on the tank.

    Also, what is this hate resetting move that Uraeus apparently has? Looking through its moves now I can only see its weaponskills.
    The only mobs I ever had reset my hate before 1.18 (or at least notice my hate being reset) were the 2 buffalo, Tarbh Uisge and the Great Buffalo.
    And that was when they used this move.

    I don't remember Uraeus EVER resetting my hate.
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    You win, Mr. Falcus! (no prize for you)

  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    The game worked just fine pre-1.18. Sure everything was easy as hell, but it worked!

    Y u change it SE?
    You answered your own question.
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  5. #105
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    RathSkybreaker's Avatar
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    Rath Skybreaker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    You answered your own question.
    Oh man best way to start the morning... EVER XD yeah I really don't see why people are complaining anymore, seems the learning curve is over.. or at least majority of players are getting used to it I'm seeing a lot of improvements to MM on my server.
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  6. #106
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    Alyssa Hanson
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    I'm pretty sure they'll adjust/fix hate in the next patches. At least, I hope they do.
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  7. #107
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    Syn Kazama
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    As it has been said omgcountlesstimes majority of people are happy with mage nerf. Enmity is jacked and we all know it. FFXIV does not work like a lot of MMOs where taunts stack and stack and stack. A taunt is just intended to bring it back after hate is lost and it does not work very well. So spamming taunts does nothing if you already have full hate.

    Granted I do not know how this functions at 50 but in the lower ranks the same problem exists and from what I have seen the only thing that holds hate is high DPS, and I do mean DPS not burst damage although that too helps.

    To the OP there is a poll thread on the cure costs I suggest you "Like" the "Hate it" post.
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