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    DoubleEcho's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lardinho View Post
    I was in a party fighting Uraeus with the OP, and I can tell you that Uraeus used to be fairly easy, well very easy if I'm honest with less than half a party.

    Tonight what we witnessed was ridiculous. I'm not blaming anyone as I love the 1.18 patch and think a fantastic job has been done and I think its shown the potential of what is to come so I'm a happy bunny. At the same time, this forum is for people to post about their experienced and perhaps vent spleen a little. During the Uraeus fight, after wiping a couple of times, we buffed up and let the tank start, so he could fight alone for the first 30 seconds or so to establish some form of hate, during which time he used every provoke, taunt, war drum and various other hate building buffs to try and establish some form of hate. Once we all joined, the poor healer, Kurai (the OP) cast 1 single Cure II spell and instantly Uraeus wandered over to him and killed him. None of this is exaggerated in any way, I was literally gobsmacked and we joked that this was the result of people having tested the system =P

    To be fair though, Uraeus has a hate reset move, which didn't help. Even when we regathered, decided on new tactics, using a MRD offtank to voke and tank to take over if the main tank lost hate, none of this helped, provoke is nowhere near powerful enough, not are many of the hate moves yet hate for Cures and Curagas are way too strong hatewise.

    I look forward to what is clearly an unbalanced system to be balanced as I love the way the team has listened so far and the fact we have chocobos and airships and Ifrit fight coming in 1.19 its clear that now big changes have taken place and tweaks will fix them, there's so much more the game is throwing at us in quick succession. Hopefully this thread will highlight an area that needs tweaking ^^
    One of our GLAs who is very experienced (played FFXI since launch) found that the best way to gain hate was for him to just cure someone. However, post patch he only has enough MP for 3 cures. War Drum, Warmonger, Provoke II, Disorient, etc do absolutely nothing.

    I mention that he's very experienced just to emphasize that he knows the game and battle mechanics, it's just bad emnity control post patch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleEcho View Post
    One of our GLAs who is very experienced (played FFXI since launch) found that the best way to gain hate was for him to just cure someone. However, post patch he only has enough MP for 3 cures. War Drum, Warmonger, Provoke II, Disorient, etc do absolutely nothing.

    I mention that he's very experienced just to emphasize that he knows the game and battle mechanics, it's just bad emnity control post patch.
    Stygian Spikes was not used I sespect? It has a very highly underated usefullness.
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    Reika Shadowheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    Stygian Spikes was not used I sespect? It has a very highly underated usefullness.
    I always use stygian spikes too, but it does no good if monsters dont hit you with NORMAL melee attacks, or dont hit you at all since enmity is hard to hold, and it does no good if the Ogre boss uses TP moves far more than melee moves, since still we dont get MP increases from anything but normal melee auto-attacks. Running out of MP is still easy.
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