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  1. #1371
    Player
    Arkenne's Avatar
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    Aiot O'lein
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Rogue Lv 80
    I may be shuned for this but meh...

    What I have is not a Healer horror story but a DPS horror story, maybe will be good for a change of pace?

    Anyway, while I do my dailies I have been farming for Solds and so I try to run a lowbie roulette as Im doing random stuff, sometimes it pops after all, and it was the case this time, so why not? Someone needs me on low levels! So lets go!!

    And so, the first thing I say is "hi~♪" and all go "hi" too, so at least is a polite party that greets people! woo, nice start.
    Then the screen clears out and reveals to me the dungeon I am destined to run through and open a path for my companions as their DPS, and it was one of the very first 3 D:!! That one that reminds me of the little-mermaid (not like you'd know) with many pirates and clams and stuff...

    So I say, "oh well, there goes most of my high level skills, even the mudras" (I was a NIN) "poison, combos... the more I think of it, the more depressing it goes".

    And so, tank (which was a gladiator) comments that it was his first time as a tank, Healer doesnt mind at all since she is also leveling her CNJ (but said she might fall asleep), and my pal DPS for this run, a THM which said he was lvling too, mained DRG, so pretty much I was the only weirdo with a Job instead of a class... but I cant just register for low roulettes with my Class right D:? it might be bad...

    Either way, I comment its fine by me, after all I like slow runs, but as soon as the Tank hits the first mob, one doubt surfaces to my mind... how good can the Tank hold my agro? I know I was synched down to the ground, and my synched gears might actually be worse than the optimal lvl 18 HQ gear for the dungeon, but I hardly believed the Tank was in optimal gear since well, for one, he has less HP than me by almost 100!!

    So I poked the first mob this Tank companion of mine went for first after waiting 2~3 GCD, and my surprise was kinda astonoshing, had the mob on me after 3 moves of my own despite the headstart D: (without poison)!!

    So first thing I do after the mob is clear is open my char status screen and unequip all accesories, then try on again on next mob... nope, no good, my over all gear was still higher spec even on down synch!! so after that mob, I undid my belt...

    And then switched to a lower weapon...

    And then took off my gloves...

    And then removed my hat...

    And ten stripped my top...

    And then threw off my shoes...

    And then I had to stare at my pants... luckily for me I had a level 1 pair so I was not rocking it on underwear...

    After the first miniboss also got the lvl 15 boots (which I wanted anyway for glamour's sake) and no longer had to worry about stepping on something pointy and hurtin my feet!!

    Either way, by then we already ran through the clams and sometimes I couldnt avoid surpassing the Tank's agro (I actually do pay attention to how much agro Im generating and procure never steal the tank's spot light) which resulted in the Tank lossing tempo and a domino effect that lead to everyone else getting agro and our Healer having a hard time... so yep, stripping myself off and utterly stopping DPS at times was a must :|

    Since all that from the beginning to the first mini-boss I was too preocupied with my own agro in relation to the Tank, I wasn't able to pay real much attention to everyone else, but once I managed to nerf myself down enough (from ilvl 106 to 13), I started to notice a few details from the other guys.

    For one the THM was, uhm... cute, I would say. He was Firing all the things, but only one by one, at level 18, you have Fira enabled so I guess he forgot about it, and me too. Of course, when he ran out of MP he would promptly switch to Blizzard spells, but ooooi, THM frieeeend, Blizzara is AoE, alright, but you have to get closer~♪ also Blizzard is still better damage wise and you forgot to Transpose :v

    Still, he managed to actually Bind the mobs on the 3rd boss with a well timed Blizzara so I think thats alright XD (he never used in the whole dun Fira tho).

    And the Healer, she was pretty nice, she might have fallen asleep a few times but, I cant blame her, after all it was a lvl 18 synch dun, well, she wasnt synched from so far, her weapon was ilvl 16... I suppose she was on the 20+?

    In any case, she did her job a bit too well, if any of us got even as little as much as 1 damage, we would get an immediate heal. As mindful as I am on the Agro metters (which I think its odd for a DPS) I don't think that was a good idea... she kept us alive but still sometimes she would get the Agro from a few mobs and Tank would run after them. This specially if I failed to control my own Agro...

    So, overall, the party was a trainwreck! We were so terrible we were so good! so it was actually very balanced! So there were no wipes, no major problems and was over all quite the nice run. Noobs are cute XP

    At the end of the run I did point out their faults tho.
    Tank for starters, had an ilvl 5 weapon, no wonder I was beating his Agro even tho I nerfed myself down to ilvl 13. And he never used the shield throw skill you get from the gladiator lvl 15 class quest, so I pointed him to go get it and he'll also get a weapon there.
    The THM also got a bit scolded by me for the Blizzara mess but it was ok in the end, he did properly aim the adds that poped if they poped on the boss and well, just didnt aim at the same target as the Tank a few times, which pulled mobs to him, but thats ok.
    The CNJ, didnt get to hear her opinion of my comment of her stepping on the overheal for too much, so I guess that she fell asleep in the end...

    They were all very open minded and recived the critisism with open arms, sadly I couldnt comm them all :|

    Could have been worse I guess?
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    Last edited by Arkenne; 01-15-2015 at 05:54 AM.

  2. #1372
    Player
    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenne View Post
    Longness
    Uhhh.. Just a few things I guess? Why would you be so against taking hate in Satasha? It's like... really easy and it probably would have been a smoother run if you just kept all your equips on and tanked everything while your CNJ healed you. If they complained you could have explained that you being such a high level and such that it was easier that way?

    Also the thing about Fire II? If the tank couldn't keep hate off you how do you think he would be able to keep it off an AoEing THM? It was smart for him to just use Fire.

    And I don't think your CNJ fell asleep. From what I could gather from what you said it seems like she had plenty to do.

    But I guess I can understand where you were coming from. Sort of.
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  3. #1373
    Player
    Arkenne's Avatar
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    Aiot O'lein
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Rogue Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    Some doubts
    The agro management is a thing for me, personal and all, dont like taking the stuff from someone else and I like smooth runs so, I see no reason to look for trouble stepping into the Tank's territory just because I was higher level. If anything it would have been pretty bad.

    The Tank was doing his job pretty well, he might have lost agro to me pretty quickly on almost anything I even so slightly as poked if I went with all, but he was holding off for the other 2 descently well, I believe he could have done well even if the THM went for Fira.

    And about the CNJ, I know I am being rude telling them about the overheal, I did tell them it was great they were focusing on heal more than anything tho, but as being such a low level dungeon, I believe (from my healer friend's opinion) that is quite the boring dungeon for healers, is it not? So being on your toes to heal everything even if you over heal by tripple the amount needed, arent you doing more harm than good? (well, this applies for everything actually) The person never threw any DoT or picked up her slingshot, but I am of the belief that if a healer does that, they just have too much free time, and if they feel like helping my job while theirs is fine, then Im good. Im not a healer myself, so feel free to tell me out :\

    Over all, they were a learning party, and pushing my way to go as fast as possible wouldn't have been good for them, I just pointed these out at the end of the run instead of during the run.
    Dunno, I just felt they were cute XP
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    Last edited by Arkenne; 01-16-2015 at 07:21 AM.

  4. #1374
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    Kikoten's Avatar
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    Lucky Tails
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Kiko Ten was sitting crisscross in his leather lounge chair by the flickery, golden flames in the fireplace, looking rather perturbed -- irritable, even. His thick hardback book, Healing Horror Stories, had been fitfully cast aside, lying on the floor with its covers open and pages ruffled. Upon your entry he scowled at you, but he was not at all intimidating.

    "I went to Brayflox Longstop," he said, crossing his arms tightly, "and there was an Arcanist in the party whom I broke into a full-bodied sweat keeping alive! That Twelvedamned Elezen of a fool! Before any of us were prepared to depart, he ran ahead of our leader -- our Gladiator! -- and proceeded to bombard our enemies with his magic! It was so insufferable that I wanted to leave, but I couldn't let my party down. We eventually finished our crawl, and he with us, but...

    "How that fool ever made it so far, only the gods may know. Hmph!"
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    Three Ilm Knights, One Thousand Malm Road

  5. #1375
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
    World
    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    CT, still full of trolls despite so few people running the raid. Had a tank in my party who wanted to act cute by stripping off all of her armor and slapping on the ghost sheet costume from the halloween event. I refused to heal and revive her after that.
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  6. #1376
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    MXMoondoggie's Avatar
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    CT, still full of trolls despite so few people running the raid. Had a tank in my party who wanted to act cute by stripping off all of her armor and slapping on the ghost sheet costume from the halloween event. I refused to heal and revive her after that.
    Even had that sort of trolling in ST. Some Monk decided to fight naked and die every 2 seconds and what made it worse was the SCH who i assume was one of their friends decided to focus on them constantly chain ressing them. Other people were having problems and they were just standing there doing a slow res since they had Swiftcast on CD just to raise the Monk who would then get killed seconds later all while talking nonsense in chat. I guess that stuff will start getting worse too when ST is no longer the thing people need to do for gear and mats.
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  7. #1377
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    raela's Avatar
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    Raela Sarinelle
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    So I just came back from a week-long duty finder vacation and poked my friend into progressing through some trials. We took a trip to our good friend google to read up on the fights for an idea of what was to come, then headed off on our merry way.. to nightmares.

    Our first fight was Ultima HM. Based on the number of phases and mechanics, my friend was a bit wary.. but overly optimistic/naive me was all "oh, but on the forums, people say it's easy now since everyone's overgeared.. might not be that bad!" Of course, we wiped in seconds. Luckily, the group was all willing to keep trying.. wipe.. after wipe.. after wipe.. Getting farther each time, but still, a bit depressing.

    As I became more comfortable with the mechanics/memorized when and where I needed to move, I started paying more attention to my co-healer whitemage. About 90~95% of the time, she was casting Medica.. one person takes a little bit of damage? Medica!! Rarely, if multiple people had taken significant damage, I'd see a Medica II. Also from time to time, she would cast Cure, or rarer still, Cure II.. Interestingly enough, not on herself though.. and she never did learn how to dodge anything.

    From the DPS side, apparently only my friend and one other were going for orbs, as well as one of the tanks.. so most of our later wipes were due to not enough people taking care of those. In addition to the whitemage not being effective with heals, she also never once used raise. (I even asked after a wipe! Very politely, asked if she could help with ressing if she had the mp.. she never responded.) As a result, the DPS would throw themselves at the orbs and die, then I'd have to sit and slowcast res them up again.. and again.. and again..

    We ended up with 25% echo (wiped with that at least once!) and less than 5 minutes left.. I was healing everyone I could and pushing way too much succor, to the point that I ran out of mp around the second airship phase and was spamming my embrace hotkey on the tank, waiting out the 20 seconds of aetherflow cd.. dps just barely managed to take care of the orbs, I got my mp back up and threw out more heals, and we killed it just before time ran out..

    We almost didn't queue for another trial after that. A bit too traumatizing.. We attempted Garuda Ex next and ended up with a vote abandon, but still we went for a third later in the night.. Thornmarch HM, should be easier, right? Amusingly enough, we had 4 ninjas for DPS.. that combined with the music, made the run all the more surreal..

    Despite people admitting they were new, the tank didn't have much patience.. marked two (but not all), and we wiped in the second phase. Regrouped, went for it again (did not mark more to help out DPS), and had another near wipe in the second phase.. tank and healer saw several people die and immediately left the duty. Heard the limit break noise, saw screen go black.. cutscene! One of the ninjas apparently had focus fired on the boss the whole time and managed to survive the aoe/finish it with the limit.. Quite an odd end to things.
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  8. #1378
    Player
    Ghishlain's Avatar
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Got a newly minted 50 DRG and was spamming Trial DR to get a variety of learning experiences for my rotation. Got into Ramuh HM and had a WHM who basically casted Medica II at the very beginning of the fight then sat there for the remainder doing nothing. Someone noticed, and at first we thought it was just the terror, but after he was freed he still did nothing. There was bitching involved from several party members but we cleared. WHM left immediately after they got the trial completion.

    Some people -.-
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  9. #1379
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    sirlombax's Avatar
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    Szeth Osiris
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    That moment when the WHM disconnects and you as the SCH has to solo heal Shiva Extreme. I pop all my cooldowns when necessary and sling spells like a cowboy would sling bullets. We get the boss down to 20% and two dps die from double staff whiteout. Swiftcast resurrect one of them to have another die to the hailstorm. Pop cooldowns to get the party back up while I wait on swiftcast. 15% rolls around and I pop everything I have to fend off the whiteouts. Another dps dies to moving during thin ice. I slow rez the monk during bow phase. Eternal Staff mode and eternal whiteouts ensure. Pop cooldowns and get the party to full health. Mana is in the toilet and Aetherflow is on cooldown. I take a swig of my best elixer and keep trucking. I beg bard for a mage's ballad. Bard dies because monk overlaps hailstorms with her. I swiftcast rez, but my mana is gone. Double whiteout. We wipe at 9% Shiva.

    It was a nightmare, but also kind of fun. I got full commendations at least
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  10. #1380
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    Mahen's Avatar
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    Gryvous Friegen
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Actually I have 2 stories.

    First I go for to Titan to advance mi main quest with my bard and a tank who offered to help me, got in with a Nin, and i think was a Sch, we begin the fight, first thing I notice healer dies with the stomp attack Titan does, he can't take it, i check his gear and find he has almost all his gear between ilvl 10-15, and then just disconected, obviously left with my friend and just requed and got inmediatly after it, only felt bad for the Nin because he said he took over 50 mins to get in DF.

    Second was just today in a run for Brayflox, got with a Whm, and a Nin and a lvl 35 Gla!! He couldn't hold aggro, didn't use flash, would lose aggro with a single heal, he wanted to dps!! And in the last boss he wouldn't even try to get boss out of poison spits, eventually we managed to clear, but it was awful took over 1 hour.
    And it didn't mater how much we told him to flash or stop dps'ing just didn't know what he was doing. Worst run in Brayflox so far...
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