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  1. #1361
    Player
    MXMoondoggie's Avatar
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Brayflox is the first real test for people everything before that is super easy so you don't get all that prepared for it and you get some who had an easy ride like Tanks who are just not ready for a dungeon that makes you pay more attention. Some do better with it than others when it comes to learning their class and teamwork skills.


    Had a really weird experience in AV recently. Wasn't on WHM i was leveling another class and there was a WHM who was leveling also. Gets in and he does nothing except say "Full clear" great...Awesome....Protect would be nice too. Like 3 minutes of silence and the Tank decides to get on with it and somewhere in that protect is eventually cast missing the Tank. So we carry on clearing mobs and everything is fine. First boss. Healer does very little barely keeps us alive never uses divine seal with regen but it goes down easy enough though people had to use fruit at two stacks instead of 3-4. So this is where the big issue started we get to that one room with the fruit that later spawns mobs if you don't kill them. I instinctively nuke the fruit and we kill the mobs.

    WHM is like"wtf?" i ignore it and then he's like "If you kill the fruit again i AFK" at this point i start laughing at him being such a self important dork. I'd sort of understand him having an attitude if he was good and worth it but he wasn't really. Anyway since i main WHM i start pointing out what he does wrong on the second boss. Never uses divine seal, When he has nothing to do he just AFK's until somebody needs healing never uses cleric stance. Didn't even use esuna until i reminded him 3 times. So this makes WHM even more angry and then he vote kicks me which the other two accept for some reason. Fair enough pointless to be on such a toxic run. I'd genuinely forgot about the fruit thing had he just been like "Oh we get more EXP if you let the mobs spawn" i probably would have just been like "Oh yeah i forgot about that i could use the EXP too. But he starts throwing a tantrum and acting like he is a healing god that could never be replaced.

    Queued again for it an hour later and got a lvl 50 Healer doing roulette who was much better. Kinda wanted to see last boss with Mr.Moody pants though i bet he'd just do nothing and people would struggle to stay alive with 2-3 stacks. No holy on seeds etc.
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    Last edited by MXMoondoggie; 01-12-2015 at 09:00 PM.

  2. #1362
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    deos's Avatar
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    Character
    Koromo Amae
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 89
    ever had a brayflox group where everybody, including tank, was 2hit from everything?
    well i had on a run with my WHM, and after 5 wipes before even reaching the first boss we agreed on dissolve the group
    sometimes you get good random groups and sometimes...
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  3. #1363
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    DawgPilez's Avatar
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    Character
    Duwryght Verdade
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    Had a tank and a nin yell at me for sleeping mobs (adds). They weren't saying a word until we wiped on a time I failed to sleep an add that attacked me (but the tank was pulling the entire room). I die trying to somehow keep team alive, myself, and the mob away from me (no one helps me of course). It was a nightmare. First time people baretted me for supporting team since I barely have enough mana to repeatedly cast cure2 on 6+ pulls with no break.

    They eventually leave me alone when I told them they should kick me as I must have been a horrible human being. Their attitudes changed when they heard that. I shouldn't have to ask to be kicked for people to let up on the bashing. Of course, if I were a dps, I would have been dropped like a hat >_<
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  4. #1364
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Miles Saintborough
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Had an extremely bad run of CT with a tank that had to be trolling. Barely geared for the run and pretty much screwed up every mechanic the party was trying to teach him; we lost 2 pots in the Thanatos fight since the tank was going all over the place and I couldn't balance between healing the party and healing the pots. The fight with the red devils went bad since troll tank decided to attack a boss belonging to another alliance and not helping with adds. The fight with King Behemoth was even worse since he didn't even click the towers and he let a tower get blown up, all while insisting that he was clicking the towers!


    He was so bad that the other tank flat out told him that she hated him and that she treated him like crap to force him to learn better. What did the tank say? "That's ok". He had to be trolling. It's the only thing that makes sense. The other healer in our party was glad I came along because I was pretty much the only one carrying the entire group.
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  5. #1365
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    MXMoondoggie's Avatar
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    CT still gets a lot of trolls. It should be one of those things for easy tomes in and out. You normally get new people since people need to do it for the quest to unlock ST so the bonus is common so like 150 tomes per run plus a few Poetics. But unfortunately a lot of the time it's not easy because of people with nothing better to do than troll the run and do their best to cause wipes. Been running it a lot lately for soldiery to gear BLM but i think it's slowly driving me to madness. Did 4 runs yesterday and in three of them trolls were on the run in my group. Wiping the group on the three platform boss thingy by starting it before everyone is in so people already in just get wiped. Being a nuisance in chat and so on.
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  6. #1366
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    Saseal's Avatar
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    Saseal Korei
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by DawgPilez View Post
    Had a tank and a nin yell at me for sleeping mobs (adds). They weren't saying a word until we wiped on a time I failed to sleep an add that attacked me (but the tank was pulling the entire room). I die trying to somehow keep team alive, myself, and the mob away from me (no one helps me of course).
    I've had this before - I usually get this in Darkhold... the Sacrificed Souls or which ever they are... the floaty glowy ball monsters *Rages against the floaty glowy balls*
    They never fail to target me and only me after a pull - so I'm sort of stuck trying to heal the tank, any dps that may have pulled aggro or not out of AoEs and myself... all the while the little pain in the ass is canceling my casts. I usually sleep them, but in section like where the toads are can get a little hectic and my priority tends to be HP bars. Needless to say, I sometimes die in there, whereas I'm usually fine and dandy in the expert dungeons. >_>
    Ran it twice in one night - died to the same circumstances. I hate Darkhold.
    I would kill for Medica II (for extra HoT) or Holy in that dungeon. *Twitch*

    They eventually leave me alone when I told them they should kick me as I must have been a horrible human being. Their attitudes changed when they heard that. I shouldn't have to ask to be kicked for people to let up on the bashing. Of course, if I were a dps, I would have been dropped like a hat >_<
    I'm actually surprised they changed their attitude. o_O Usually they just go ahead and do it (kick people) at the suggestion, regardless who's actually fault (or if none at fault) >_>
    From what I read of your horror story, I didn't see anything seriously bad to warrant a kick anyway. Shit happens *Shrug*. Most people don't realize what they're doing/saying and/or just don't adjust their attitudes just to save face.... so... I'm surprised.
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  7. #1367
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    MXMoondoggie's Avatar
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Twintania
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    ^
    Assuming they didn't want to kick the healer and wait for another one. DPS are dime a dozen so if you kick one and queue a replacement you get one in like 30 seconds usually and you can be waiting a while for a healer replacement. I think just some people try to shift the blame for their own mistakes come across some random ones where a Garuda EX the DPS were slow so we kept losing pillars before the big attack and wiping and some DPS was making some random excuse about the Tank position. Usually nobody really cares that much if you make a mistake and are like "Sorry i screwed that up" but some just blame others and start a huge argument.
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  8. #1368
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    DawgPilez's Avatar
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    Duwryght Verdade
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Idk. It was one wipe 75% in the dungeon on a non-boss pull. I think they were miffed that their flow was broken. I was doing well before and after that one thing (and get all 3 comms). Idk. I don't think the community is all bad, just sometimes people can lash out at every little thing when their isn't enough support for genuine good or efforted play.

    Alas, if you aren't playing the way someone wants, either by achieving the goal as fast as possible or playing EXACTLY like how they want, people start to rage. I think playing too many single player games and playing multiplayer games in single-player mode/mindset is an aspect to people not knowing how to work with others.
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  9. #1369
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    Kikoten's Avatar
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    Character
    Lucky Tails
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    In the cozy little study, the Lalafell sat reclined in his leather chair by the chimney. The logs popped and hissed as the fire burned in the hearth. Kiko had a toy pipe in his mouth, blowing bubbles as he read his book, Healing Horror Stories. He noticed your presence again.

    Kiko let out a high-pitched chuckle, taking his bubblepipe away from his mouth. "I didn't realize it, but I was living a Horror Story this whole time," he squeaked. "I didn't know I was supposed to attack the enemy when my groupmates didn't need healing. Hehe! Scary, huh?"
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    Three Ilm Knights, One Thousand Malm Road

  10. #1370
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    Arkenne's Avatar
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    Aiot O'lein
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Rogue Lv 80
    I may be shuned for this but meh...

    What I have is not a Healer horror story but a DPS horror story, maybe will be good for a change of pace?

    Anyway, while I do my dailies I have been farming for Solds and so I try to run a lowbie roulette as Im doing random stuff, sometimes it pops after all, and it was the case this time, so why not? Someone needs me on low levels! So lets go!!

    And so, the first thing I say is "hi~♪" and all go "hi" too, so at least is a polite party that greets people! woo, nice start.
    Then the screen clears out and reveals to me the dungeon I am destined to run through and open a path for my companions as their DPS, and it was one of the very first 3 D:!! That one that reminds me of the little-mermaid (not like you'd know) with many pirates and clams and stuff...

    So I say, "oh well, there goes most of my high level skills, even the mudras" (I was a NIN) "poison, combos... the more I think of it, the more depressing it goes".

    And so, tank (which was a gladiator) comments that it was his first time as a tank, Healer doesnt mind at all since she is also leveling her CNJ (but said she might fall asleep), and my pal DPS for this run, a THM which said he was lvling too, mained DRG, so pretty much I was the only weirdo with a Job instead of a class... but I cant just register for low roulettes with my Class right D:? it might be bad...

    Either way, I comment its fine by me, after all I like slow runs, but as soon as the Tank hits the first mob, one doubt surfaces to my mind... how good can the Tank hold my agro? I know I was synched down to the ground, and my synched gears might actually be worse than the optimal lvl 18 HQ gear for the dungeon, but I hardly believed the Tank was in optimal gear since well, for one, he has less HP than me by almost 100!!

    So I poked the first mob this Tank companion of mine went for first after waiting 2~3 GCD, and my surprise was kinda astonoshing, had the mob on me after 3 moves of my own despite the headstart D: (without poison)!!

    So first thing I do after the mob is clear is open my char status screen and unequip all accesories, then try on again on next mob... nope, no good, my over all gear was still higher spec even on down synch!! so after that mob, I undid my belt...

    And then switched to a lower weapon...

    And then took off my gloves...

    And then removed my hat...

    And ten stripped my top...

    And then threw off my shoes...

    And then I had to stare at my pants... luckily for me I had a level 1 pair so I was not rocking it on underwear...

    After the first miniboss also got the lvl 15 boots (which I wanted anyway for glamour's sake) and no longer had to worry about stepping on something pointy and hurtin my feet!!

    Either way, by then we already ran through the clams and sometimes I couldnt avoid surpassing the Tank's agro (I actually do pay attention to how much agro Im generating and procure never steal the tank's spot light) which resulted in the Tank lossing tempo and a domino effect that lead to everyone else getting agro and our Healer having a hard time... so yep, stripping myself off and utterly stopping DPS at times was a must :|

    Since all that from the beginning to the first mini-boss I was too preocupied with my own agro in relation to the Tank, I wasn't able to pay real much attention to everyone else, but once I managed to nerf myself down enough (from ilvl 106 to 13), I started to notice a few details from the other guys.

    For one the THM was, uhm... cute, I would say. He was Firing all the things, but only one by one, at level 18, you have Fira enabled so I guess he forgot about it, and me too. Of course, when he ran out of MP he would promptly switch to Blizzard spells, but ooooi, THM frieeeend, Blizzara is AoE, alright, but you have to get closer~♪ also Blizzard is still better damage wise and you forgot to Transpose :v

    Still, he managed to actually Bind the mobs on the 3rd boss with a well timed Blizzara so I think thats alright XD (he never used in the whole dun Fira tho).

    And the Healer, she was pretty nice, she might have fallen asleep a few times but, I cant blame her, after all it was a lvl 18 synch dun, well, she wasnt synched from so far, her weapon was ilvl 16... I suppose she was on the 20+?

    In any case, she did her job a bit too well, if any of us got even as little as much as 1 damage, we would get an immediate heal. As mindful as I am on the Agro metters (which I think its odd for a DPS) I don't think that was a good idea... she kept us alive but still sometimes she would get the Agro from a few mobs and Tank would run after them. This specially if I failed to control my own Agro...

    So, overall, the party was a trainwreck! We were so terrible we were so good! so it was actually very balanced! So there were no wipes, no major problems and was over all quite the nice run. Noobs are cute XP

    At the end of the run I did point out their faults tho.
    Tank for starters, had an ilvl 5 weapon, no wonder I was beating his Agro even tho I nerfed myself down to ilvl 13. And he never used the shield throw skill you get from the gladiator lvl 15 class quest, so I pointed him to go get it and he'll also get a weapon there.
    The THM also got a bit scolded by me for the Blizzara mess but it was ok in the end, he did properly aim the adds that poped if they poped on the boss and well, just didnt aim at the same target as the Tank a few times, which pulled mobs to him, but thats ok.
    The CNJ, didnt get to hear her opinion of my comment of her stepping on the overheal for too much, so I guess that she fell asleep in the end...

    They were all very open minded and recived the critisism with open arms, sadly I couldnt comm them all :|

    Could have been worse I guess?
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    Last edited by Arkenne; 01-15-2015 at 05:54 AM.

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