Quote Originally Posted by Exodus-E View Post
The fact that he's still here, even without worshipers (or even crystals, AFAIK) throws a monkey wrench on how Primals can materialize in the first place.
I think the hint was more along the lines of, but that must mean something somewhere is worshiping Odin again!
Quote Originally Posted by Exodus-E View Post
Which is interesting, because Shiva already kind of did that (challenging what we know on how Primals are summoned/sustained).
Shiva has me in full darksteelfoil hat mode. I've been building this huge theory about how the six elements themselves are the true primal forces (the "rainbow" of aspects from the "white light" of the Crystal) and that they've manifested differently with different names over the ages. They can be summoned into hosts like Iceheart, but this is corrupted by the Ascians, who instead twist the rituals to summon them with no anchor, resulting in a power-mad Elemental that seeks only to devour more aether to sustain its presence and power. It explains both kinds of summoning, why Belias looks like Ifrit, and even extends to the origins of the Twelve. I've just avoided talking too much about this crazy fringe theory until after 2.5 because it's a house of cards that could easily be toppled by a single piece of new information. I have a tendency to take my speculations too far as I circle the truth drain, lol.

Quote Originally Posted by Exodus-E View Post
Or is he similar to Shiva in that he used host in order to manifest himself?
Well there's an interesting thought... We know so little about Odin that it's easy to make any theory work, though, so it's difficult to say. If he is indeed a "host" primal, perhaps that's why they've held back his lore for this long.

Quote Originally Posted by lololink View Post
2.5 will tell us more
Pretty stoked for that.