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    Quote Originally Posted by treuhavik View Post
    Moose, was "Eorzea!" part of that last line or was it a line on it's own in the lyrics you found?
    The lyrics I used were part of some Fan Festival coverage follow-up from Fernehalwes. Leaving out any information that might unintentionally serve as speculation fodder, he clarified that the meaning and origin of Eorzea's name has yet to be revealed. Because we have translations of the lyrics, but don't have the meaning of Eorzea's name, I take that to mean it's not part of "the saviors must perish."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    The lyrics I used were part of some Fan Festival coverage follow-up from Fernehalwes. Leaving out any information that might unintentionally serve as speculation fodder, he clarified that the meaning and origin of Eorzea's name has yet to be revealed. Because we have translations of the lyrics, but don't have the meaning of Eorzea's name, I take that to mean it's not part of "the saviors must perish."
    Hmm... Now I'm curious. Anyway, thanks! If the meaning of Eorzea hasn't been revealed, then it isn't here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Sah djahs afah an

    This line is the trickiest. We were just told that "afah" means "eternal," which I assume means you trace it back quite a bit. Eternal, aeternus, aevum, and then switch the v sound to an f sound, kinda like an altered ever. "Sah djas" I can't figure out at all, however. We've been told it means, "Vengeance will be ours." Anybody got any ideas? If I really stretch it, I can see djahs linking to "just" and assuming "justice eternal / justice of the ages" is a fancy way of saying vengeance. "So justice eternal [will be] ours," maybe? Needs work.
    Here's a possibility for the third line;

    Sah: Root: salv- English: save Latin: salvus, salvare Example: salvage, salvation, salve --- Reclamation, Mend; Will be I may be reaching a bit far on this one.

    Djahs: Root: jus-, jur- English: law, justice Latin ius, iuris Example: abjure, jurisprudence, jury, just, justice, objurgate, perjury --- Justice

    Afah: Root: aev-, ev- English: age Latin: aevum Example: age, coeval, eon, eternal, longevity, medieval, primeval --- Eternal

    An: Root: un- English: one Latin: unus, unius Example: unanimous, unary, unicorn, unify, union, universe, university --- Our(s)


    Salvage, justice, eternal, ours
    Salvage our eternal justice.

    Salvage - To save, recover
    Eternal Justice - Vengeance

    "Vengeance will be ours!"


    Thoughts?


    It seems you've got the first two lines sorted, Moose, those look good.


    Now, for the last line;

    Mah could simply mean 'Man'. Or, if we really want to stretch it;

    Root: mand-, -mend- English: order, commit Latin: mandāre, mandatus Example: command, commend, commendation, countermand, demand, mandate, mandatory, recommend, remand

    To commend or mandate is to give, and in mandate's case, with great authority or force. "Royal mandates must be obeyed." I can live with that.

    So, since we've already established how 'Morn' relates to 'Mort', meaning death, that leaves 'Narr'.

    Now, if "Mah" is 'must' or 'must-give' as I've implied here, "Narr" can't too mean 'give' in this context, like I previously suggested.

    Following the trend, 'Narr' could possibly be taken from the root 'Nat-', meaning born, implying that we're either natives or newly born to this land (relative to them). Not sure how that makes saviors though. Perhaps we're Hydaelyn's newborn saviors?


    Must give death [to Hydaelyn's] newborns
    "[To] The Saviors(Hydaelyn's Newborns) [we] Must [-give] Perish(death)"
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