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    Ghishlain's Avatar
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sadana View Post
    Heh, speed it way up on DoH/DoL classes and zero it out in battle. Would we see armies of crafting bots then?
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    I don't wanna think about it. ><
    Make it so when you Quick Synth, you'll always get 1% regardless of ilvl of the DoH? @.@

    Dunno what you'd do for DoL though, lol. Maybe just double the amount of SB they get per tick >.>; (I dunno how DoL SB is calculated)
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    Sadana's Avatar
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    Valia Rosa
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    Make it so when you Quick Synth, you'll always get 1% regardless of ilvl of the DoH? @.@

    Dunno what you'd do for DoL though, lol. Maybe just double the amount of SB they get per tick >.>; (I dunno how DoL SB is calculated)
    Hm, could still be scaled according to level like the new dungeon levels are. So to SB DoL/DoH AF gear, you'd best be hitting the level 50 nodes and crafting level 46+ stuff. And the return is a decent % of SB (whatever that would be, comparable to dungeoning per mob), much more if HQ I guess to counteract botting... Not sure...
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sadana View Post
    Hm, could still be scaled according to level like the new dungeon levels are. So to SB DoL/DoH AF gear, you'd best be hitting the level 50 nodes and crafting level 46+ stuff. And the return is a decent % of SB (whatever that would be, comparable to dungeoning per mob), much more if HQ I guess to counteract botting... Not sure...
    I think this is already the way it works

    DoM/DoW class: SB rate depend on the difference between gear ilevel and enemy/dungeon level
    DoH class: SB rate depend on the difference between gear ilevel and the recipe level
    DoL class: SB rate depend on the difference between gear ilevel and node (and gathered item?) level

    Problem is that there are more places and ways to spiritbound ilevel55+ gear with DoM and DoW than with DoH (mostly only with star recipes) and DoL (mostly only with hidden nodes). It is just easier and faster to spiritbound it with a battle class, if the class can wear it.
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    Zohar Lahar
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sadana View Post
    Hm, could still be scaled according to level like the new dungeon levels are. So to SB DoL/DoH AF gear, you'd best be hitting the level 50 nodes and crafting level 46+ stuff. And the return is a decent % of SB (whatever that would be, comparable to dungeoning per mob), much more if HQ I guess to counteract botting... Not sure...
    For the Miner/Botanist gear, the leves at Saint Coinach's Find lets them spiritbond at a decent pace. But for crafting and fishing, everything's slow.
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    Devils Lawyer
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    This case in particular u could just kick the WHM cause his intent in said dungeon is to spiritbond and not help the group out.

    But ye they need to up spiritbonding from craft/gathering if they plan on ever removing such gear from dungeons.
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    Lineage Razor
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devils_Lawyer View Post
    This case in particular u could just kick the WHM cause his intent in said dungeon is to spiritbond and not help the group out.
    Well, in the case of a healer or tank, this doesn't really work. Here's a simple flowchart.
    1. CM begins! Several pulls go by, with difficulty.
    2. People finally start examining each other to figure out why.
    3. Bum WHM is identified! Engage kick!
    4. WHM is kicked! WHM shrugs.
    5. Is gear spritibonded? If not, go to step 6. If so, go to step 7.
    6. Sign onto party finder! Go to step 1.
    7. Profit!
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    Devils Lawyer
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Well, in the case of a healer or tank, this doesn't really work. Here's a simple flowchart.
    1. CM begins! Several pulls go by, with difficulty.
    2. People finally start examining each other to figure out why.
    3. Bum WHM is identified! Engage kick!
    4. WHM is kicked! WHM shrugs.
    5. Is gear spritibonded? If not, go to step 6. If so, go to step 7.
    6. Sign onto party finder! Go to step 1.
    7. Profit!
    Well im not saying that the WHM cant go back in to sb in matter of minutes, i was merely pointing out that they do have the right to kick him if hes geared fully in dol/doh stuff.
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