Wards full again

[TheVedis]

I'd like to know what damn quest you was doing, more like 1000sp and a jar of dirt.

story and class quests give ALOT more then sidequests

thats where

[Rimmer]

story and class quests give ALOT more then sidequests

thats where

They dont give anywhere near as much as 19k.

[TheVedis]

They dont give anywhere near as much as 19k.

person in my shell got 26k off the rank 36(think it was 36, or the one around there) quest yesterday

[Rimmer]

person in my shell got 26k off the rank 36(think it was 36, or the one around there) quest yesterday

Thats nice for R36, but you get barely anything for R10-20's, just a crap load of gil.

[TheVedis]

Thats nice for R36, but you get barely anything for R10-20's, just a crap load of gil.

oh yeah, the lower ones give less, thats really obvious

but the higher you go the more you get, thats a fact, youll see when you get up there


also note at lower ranks you need less to rank up...so of course itl give you less as a reward

[Namynyor]

With guild leve bonuses and the stupid amount of sp you get off quests (got 19,000 off one) you can hit 20 in a few hours pretty dam fast in my opinion heck even a casual can do this

That ~19k SP quest is only valid for rank30+ classes, If you finish that quest on any class under 30, you get less SP, on the range of about 900 SP if you're about rank10. The SP rewards for quests are listed as the MAXIMUM SP available if you meet the Optimal condition (class and rank level). If it's like gear, it gets cut in half immediately if you're the wrong class, and decreases proportional to your rank difference if lower ranked. At rank30, you need 38k? SP to gain a rank, so that quest only gives half of the SP required to rank up at best. And it's a one-time quest for the main storyline, so you can only get that on a single class.

[Namynyor]

I would say extend stalls to 3-day leases, and kick retainers on the floor out automatically after 24-hours unless the player dismisses and resummons them within that time frame. That would go a long, long way towards fixing the problem.

Not every player will log on every day. FFXI had a 5 day limit on items being available in the AH. But the time spent in a ward isn't the problem. People need to SPREAD OUT. There are 3 cities, and all of the problems with overcrowding are only coming in Ul'dah. I even have problems outside of the wards in ul'dah because of lag from too many players gathered in the city doing nothing. As it is now, I only go to Ul'dah when I need to for GLA guild, and to purchase new weapon for GLA, as my BSM isn't high enough to make the parts (backwards recipes, need a higher rank to create a blade for a sword than to make the sword itself, which runs on average 10 ranks higher than the GLA rank to equip it: Iron Spatha (GLA31, BSM30 to craft) made from Iron Spatha Blade (BSM37 to craft) and Scale Glue (ALC44 to craft) among other items.) If I need a weapon for CON, I don't want to go to Ul'dah, which has nothing to do with CON, I want to go to Gridania, which has CON guild and the CRP guild (used for making staves and wands). With guilds no restricting the issuing of marks to leves in their own city, retainers selling weapons/tools for ARC, BOT, CON, and LNC, and base items (hides, sinews, leather, logs, lumber, chips)for CRP and LTH should all be based in Gridania now. Granted, the lumber and leather should be in all cities, as they're used for other crafts as well, but primarily should be in Gridania, as that is the primary place for their usage, and chips are only used for leathercrafting. If people would spread out of Ul'dah accordingly, the markets wouldn't get overcrowded so badly. At a max/city of 6000 retainers, that's 18000 retainers allowed in markets total, and a player base of 9000 characters. I'm sure every world isn't at those levels yet, so the markets aren't 'full'. And people WILL go to the other cities to buy things, since they have to go to those cities for Grand Companies quests, and guilds.

Maybe if SE would cap the SP until class quests are completed, it would make people spread out more (similar to the crafting guilds of FFXI capping you every 10 levels until you did a 'test' to proceed to crafting to higher level crafts. This would slow down some of the speed-grinding that people want to do, as they will be forced to go attend to class specific quests at certain intervals, and make people travel around the world more, prompting increased use of the wards in other cities.

BTW, as to the issue of 'not wanting to use their anima to go to other cities for markets, I have traveled a good bit of the available world, and rarely have less than 90 anima, because I would rather run from point to point than use up the anima. I primarily only use anima for warping to another city. I have retainers for both of my characters in Gridania, because I refuse to use Ul'dah markets unless I'm staying there long-term (doing leves for GLA marks, which I'm not focusing on right now, in favor of LTH, CRP, CON and ARC). I also just spent 3.2k gil on crafting my own MRD 10 weapon for second char, the highest expense of which was the required color-treated leather strap which is out of range of LTH13 to make, instead of spending 45k+ at markets, even though I have almost 900k. When prices more accurately reflect the costs involved, I will be more inclined to purchase, but I can't justify anything over 10k for a r10 weapon or tool (and notice, SE charges 25k from NPC for the secondary tools for each craft, and I'll see the same tool in markets for 40-60k)

[Namynyor]

Making guildmarks only available in certain towns is merely an excursion. They only take about an hour to finish, to which you have to wait longer than a day to obtain more. Why would you still stay in that town once you've finished them?

WHY stay there? So you don't have to waste your precious Anima returning there the next time you need to do more leves for guild marks. And you can always run around and fight mobs in the areas around Gridania and Limsa Lominsa, there's nothing to force you to do that in Ul'dah. Get the other players in your LS together to join you exploring other cities, and you may find things to do outside of Ul'dah. And it should take more than an hour to do your leves for guild marks, unless you're only doing 1 or 2 leves. You can take up a craft that is centered in that city also (and crafting takes up a lot more time, if you grind through it)

[Yoohre_WildRiver]

in my server, gridanias and Limsas Warda are desserted, while uldahs MW is completly over crowded, i say add a tax for non citizens if you choose gridania as your main city, you wanna sell on uldah or LL? then you pay 25% tax

this will make ppl be more around their town.


i mean FFxiv is more like ffxiv:tales of uldah cause no one else does the grind or LL leves or quest cause the economy of the game is in uldah :s

[Griss]

Unless the stalls are full you can get in where ever you want.