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    What should be really added to housing is the feature to kick houses that haven't been accessed for over a month. I bet there's so many abandoned houses up in the older wards right now... -.-

    And I still think wards should be an option, not a must. They are an hinderance right now as they limit the amount of houses we can have. They should've started with instanced houses first.

    The funny thing is that they justify the wards system by saying people asked for neighborhoods, yet said neighborhoods are mostly desert. I am in my FC's ward daily and it's a miracle if there's more than 6 people in the zone at any given time. Imo, this is what they should've done:

    1) Make instanced housing. This allows everyone to have a house, especially if instead of gil it asks for GC points or Main Scenario progress like for most of other games. I'm thinking of an instance similar to the Demon Doors in the Fable games, with house, yard with field, well and whatever. It would start with small, and will be able to be expanded through further accomplishments.
    2) Make the housing wards, limited as they are now (since they don't have the servers do add more currently). For a fee (like the current fees we have now), you'll be able to move your instanced house inside the ward. Of course, the price will raise with your instanced house's size, and you'll need to select a plot your house can fit in.

    This way, all those who want a house can have a house, and all those who actually care to have a neighborhood (and will use it), can have a neighborhood. Houses for all, and no more ghost towns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluevann View Post
    What should be really added to housing is the feature to kick houses that haven't been accessed for over a month.
    People take breaks from MMOs. They shouldn't be losing 40 million gil because of it. Maybe 100 days, but absolutely not a month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    People take breaks from MMOs. They shouldn't be losing 40 million gil because of it. Maybe 100 days, but absolutely not a month.
    I don't see why players who actually play every day and take the effort of making the money for a house must wait that long for someone who isn't even playing the game. Players shouldn't have the power to occupy any kind of space while offline. If you can't stay play the game for a month, then get a smaller house and lose less money. Why should you have the biggest and coolest house away from others to then let it rot while offline?

    But of course this is an imaginary scenario we're talking about, cause in all servers there's plenty of large houses still free. The small houses are those that need to be free'd up. And you can make 4M back in a month if you really slack.

    Also, I'm not sure if you've read the rest of my post, but if SE went with my suggestion (which is not only my own), this feature wouldn't even be needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluevann View Post
    I don't see why players who actually play every day and take the effort of making the money for a house must wait that long for someone who isn't even playing the game. Players shouldn't have the power to occupy any kind of space while offline. If you can't stay play the game for a month, then get a smaller house and lose less money. Why should you have the biggest and coolest house away from others to then let it rot while offline?
    There are many different playing patterns out there.

    Some people burn through content and don't come back until the next major content update. I know some people like that, and personally have done something like that before. (Quit partway through 2.2 and came back at the cusp of 2.3)

    Some people do want time to play other games. I burnt through some of my steam backlog during my hiatus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGMidlander View Post
    There are many different playing patterns out there.

    Some people burn through content and don't come back until the next major content update. I know some people like that, and personally have done something like that before. (Quit partway through 2.2 and came back at the cusp of 2.3)

    Some people do want time to play other games. I burnt through some of my steam backlog during my hiatus.
    And that is fine, but why must the staying players suffer for them? You are offline, it's been a month, all you had to do was keep paying your subscription and log in once (or have one of your FC mates do it). If you won't go through that hassle, why should you keep the house? That you paid for it a while ago is not a valid excuse. Seriously, if it were for me I'd make the cooldown ever shorter. I am a casual, take 2-3 days breaks when I really have to, but every time I log in I do spend time around my house to craft, RP, or just chat with friends while I wait for queues. The other houses around ours are empty and ghost-like, it's unnerving.

    In my opinion, if you go through the hassle to get something and then don't use it at least on a weekly basis, then you didn't really want nor need that thing, and someone should have the right to take it if the source is limited.

    I don't know how things work over there in the United States, but over here, if someone who cannot afford buying a house finds one that has been abandoned for x years and goes through the effort to fix it up and make it fill the requirements to be considered a safe living place, he can rightfully claim ownership of that house. It's how we solve the issue of abandoned homes in the countryside.

    To want to keep something that you have not been using and that others cannot get elsewhere is selfish to say the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluevann View Post
    In my opinion, if you go through the hassle to get something and then don't use it at least on a weekly basis, then you didn't really want nor need that thing, and someone should have the right to take it if the source is limited.
    It doesn't matter whether someone "needs" something. I bought a bicycle that I don't *need*, but I bought it with my money and if I want to let it sit all winter I will. It's not for you to take away from me just because there might be a shortage of bikes or whatever. It's mine, period.

    The issue at hand is an issue of design from the ground up. IT'S THE WORST HOUSING DESIGN, EVER.


    Period. It needs a redesign from the ground up so that it doesn't matter what another player has. It's not even your BUSINESS what another player has. What she has shouldn't encroach upon you, and what you have shouldn't encroach upon her. That SE is leaving the system like this, where a sizable portion of the playerbase is locked out of content, is very telling about how much they care for us. Instead of working on content that everyone can enjoy in their own way, they create systems of competition that always leaves someone out.

    Awesome way to design a game. I've said it before - they better knock it out of the park with the Golden Saucer. I think there's quite a bit of us who are on our third strike with regards to our willingness to continue investing in this game.
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    Completely agree... So because I worked harder and got my house earlier than you, and finished all the content... Now I get to have my house taken away cause you are slow?

    I'm still paying my monthly fee, why do I have to login just to keep my house?

    1 month is way too short.
    3mo min.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluevann View Post
    What should be really added to housing is the feature to kick houses that haven't been accessed for over a month. I bet there's so many abandoned houses up in the older wards right now... -.-
    Hell no. I had planned to go on a five week trip in 2015 and I have no plans to bring my PC along. I am thinking I only dare to be gone 4 weeks now with the 35 day limit and the fact that my investment in the game is starting to effect my real life plans disgust me. Se should increase the amount of inactive time instead assuming you still pay your subscription. In fact, as long as a person keep paying they should never have to log in to ensure everything is saved.
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