What should be added to housing...

[Gurpsmeister]

Loose your house after a month? How about no. You keep talking like the staying player is entitled to something, you're not. They beat you in the race they can do what they want with it frankly. The problem isn't in players it's in the system itself, you're just looking for reasons for those that have to loose so that you can gain.

[Bluevann]

Loose your house after a month? How about no. You keep talking like the staying player is entitled to something, you're not. They beat you in the race they can do what they want with it frankly. The problem isn't in players it's in the system itself, you're just looking for reasons for those that have to loose so that you can gain.

Imagine if amount of players that could be logged in on the server at the same time was limited the way wards are, and imagine offline players would have their characters still in the game world and taking space, not letting other players log in. It's the same principle with houses. You're not using it, I want to use it and there's no more slots left. It's a flawed system that makes absolutely no sense, to let offline players take up limited in-game space.

But again everyone is getting defensive and paranoid about my opinion on plots reset (as if it had any impact on what SE will do; we already saw on who's side they're on, so chill out.) and not even looking at my proposal which would fix the whole issue entirely, so we may just agree to disagree.

[Pterois]

#1 My neighborhood (both FC and personal) is not a ghost town and I hang out with said neighbors daily while sitting around crafting and jokin. so please never change this to instance because THAT would be the ghost town.

#2 A system for relinquishing land after being completely inactive for some time SHOULD be in place. Im taking like you have not even stepped foot in said house in months, have no furnishings inside or out or you have not logged in and sub canceled. Doing this will fill those "ghost houses" with people who are actually enthusiastic about housing thus making the neighborhood more alive. (I dont know how long that should be but you know they can see the data and determine automatically some sorta set definition for losing your house due to being gone)

#3 Housing item limit. I have, in my basement alone, almost all 100 items available to a small house. That made a sweet office, bathroom and bedroom that actually looks like a home. would like to make a kitchen and den upstairs one day so please make this happen.

#4 Jukebox

#5 MEGA-SERVER just for housing... the time has come SE upgrade yo stuff!

[Waeksyn]

SE really dropped the ball when they implemented personal housing by just opening up (and adding to) existing wards and allowing individuals to purchase them. This was definitely not what had been promised - accessible housing that was cheaper than FC houses. The thing is, housing is a gateway to significant game content, namely chocobo raising and gardening.


SE can keep their existing system but should add a real estate feature that would allow people to list and sell their property. Bring the existing "black market" out of the shadows (people already sell Free Companies with existing housing).

Second, they could introduce a form of rental housing that does not have a neighborhood. Something like an Inn room on steroids. These would be leased, say 50K gil per RL week or so. If you stop paying rent, all of your belongings would go into "escrow" and could be recovered (for a fee) when you renew your rent. Renters would also get optional (additional gil fee) access to "community" gardens and stables.

This would be more accessible than the current system. The downside compared to the existing housing (which would still exist) would be the inability to furnish an outdoor area and lack of neighborhood (with market boards, etc).

[Gralna]

Housing being a gil sink is a joke, it's a one time cost, I know many people who just got loans from friend to buy theirs then paid them back. If SE really wanted to make housing a legitimate gil sink and fix the issue with houses being abandoned they should do what DAoC did for their housing.

Make enough plots for everyone for starters, but make the plots cheap and affordable, make the houses themselves be super expensive, charge weekly rent depending on size of house you have (you'd forfeit your plot if you didn't put a house down in the first week).

For rent, you'd have a rent box you could use to pay for up to 4 weeks of rent at a time, if you were gone for longer than 4 weeks and your rent box ran out of gil. Then rent would start being taken out of any gil you had on your retainers.

Charging weekly rent would be much more legitimate gil sink, keep plots opening up as peoples rent ran out and being a constant drain on the owners gil.

[SendohJin]

it's easy to let people "move", without taking out the gil sink. simply create Housing Credits which can only be used to buy housing plots, when you relinquish your land you get the equivalent of your plot's fully devalued price in Housing Credits and the only thing you can use them for is to buy another plot of land.

to make it more "fair" the amount you get back could be equivalent to the lowest price of all same size plots on your server that's still for sale. if no plots of that size are available you get full value of your plot back in Housing Credits, which in theory you can use to upgrade to a larger plot size.

and i'm so glad there's no idiotic rent system or real estate tax, i pay that in real life, i don't need to buy a fake house and have to work to maintain that too.

[Pterois]

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seriously... a way to upgrade to a med house then large (even tho large is to big for me lol) might actually be a legit way to alleviate this mess. the gil sink aspect is not the primary focus here, it is the server space and the lack there of. And for that rant idea above... lolwtf?

[kidvideo]

What should be added is what was stated we were getting: "that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable"

[HeroSamson]

I think a Option to sell their house without giving up their free company should be a new option they should add.

Or

A option to upgrade the insides of your house like make a down stairs in small house for a fee without changing the size of the house.
Example small upgrades to medium, Medium upgrades to large and large gets a room for gardening like a green house.

A crystal for the outside that teleports you between mist, goblet and lavender.
you cannot exit out of mist lavender or goblet unless you go back to the place you used the crystal from.

different looking outside looks not based on what the city gives you, like basically how goblets looks are locked away from mist looks I believe that should not exist and people should have the right to change what their house looks like from the outside not be locked from that option.

Also yard space you can't even put what you really want out there because its limited and that should be raised.

Grass option added to looks or have a swimming pool added outside maybe your house made out of ice or a rock mountain think outside of the box or a pub like a bar everyones houses look the same instead it should look like a real village.

[Souljacker]

In my opinion, if you go through the hassle to get something and then don't use it at least on a weekly basis, then you didn't really want nor need that thing, and someone should have the right to take it if the source is limited.

It doesn't matter whether someone "needs" something. I bought a bicycle that I don't *need*, but I bought it with my money and if I want to let it sit all winter I will. It's not for you to take away from me just because there might be a shortage of bikes or whatever. It's mine, period.

The issue at hand is an issue of design from the ground up. IT'S THE WORST HOUSING DESIGN, EVER.


Period. It needs a redesign from the ground up so that it doesn't matter what another player has. It's not even your BUSINESS what another player has. What she has shouldn't encroach upon you, and what you have shouldn't encroach upon her. That SE is leaving the system like this, where a sizable portion of the playerbase is locked out of content, is very telling about how much they care for us. Instead of working on content that everyone can enjoy in their own way, they create systems of competition that always leaves someone out.

Awesome way to design a game. I've said it before - they better knock it out of the park with the Golden Saucer. I think there's quite a bit of us who are on our third strike with regards to our willingness to continue investing in this game.