I got vote kicked for the first time today (or, how do I keep nin from taking aggro?)

[Tayolynn]

I dunno, this isn't 1998 anymore, there is this wonderful invention called the Internet that is... ACUTALLY REQUIRED to run the game.

I don't know what that comment was targeting, but I'll just let that hit someone else since it's irrelevant to what I said.

Also, I'm just being nice and relative to the OP since this is not the first occasion where a newbie was targeted as a troll and many experienced players mix up trolls and newbies a lot. But if OP really is a troll, then oh well, I'll be affected little to none.

[Hyunckel]

I don't know what that comment was targeting, but I'll just let that hit someone else since it's irrelevant to what I said.

Also, I'm just being nice and relative to the OP since this is not the first occasion where a newbie was targeted as a troll and many experienced players mix up trolls and newbies a lot. But if OP really is a troll, then oh well, I'll be affected little to none.

We all were nice for 5 pages of advices, I even wrote some detailed advices myself, even a guide in a separate thread. OP didn't take any advice into account, some which only would have taken him 3 minutes to apply.

You can be a new player but take 30 seconds to look up stuff, that is, if you care for your teammates and don't want to be a dead burden being carried... I was a new player a month ago and did just fine off the bat.

What's worse, doing no effort and letting others carry you or doing the effort of looking up stuff? For some people it's called respect and being polite.

You may have been able to go half naked in dungeons, as a summoner, in 2013 when the game just relaunched. (some may say as a summoner you got zero impact anyway, I know, I carried a summoner friend from lv38 to 47 even into Dzemael last week, oh boy)

We're now 1 year after, there are PLENTY of guides and the only excuse one can come up with being half naked, as a tank with responsabilities is laziness or not giving a fuck about others.

Don't wrap up new players legitimately wanting to learn (I teach plenty of new players every day in my FC), noobs (who are just baddies in disguise) and lazy asses together

If you don't care if OP is a troll or an attention seeker or not, fine. I was just considering the option after 5 pages of kind advices. To some it doesn't matter if they feed the troll, but to me I feel insulted by it if it's true.

You may not care if you're being carried half naked doing no effort or if YOU have to carry that kind of 'players', but I sure don't like being exploited and taken for a kind idiot ^_^

[QiLymePye]

^^^^^Wow.....I mean i read this and im wondering if you are not the troll. This is why people, especially newbies or people just struggling, find that asking for help is difficult. If this thread hurts your soul so much, why read and respond? I actually like that everyone is giving advice, hell I only tanked a little bit and Im enjoying getting same advice through this thread...Our community. Maybe he wanted to get feedback from the community, in an easy to read thread rather than use twitter or some search engine. But anyways, I appreciate you guys helping him because you also are helping me when I chose to go back to being a Tank. Also it helps as a DPS user to know that letting off a bit on attacking can help tank keep enmity.

[Riviere]

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Why ask for advice that you're not gonna follow?

[QiLymePye]

Why ask for advice that you're not gonna follow?

Maybe im lost, but I didn't read anything saying that he was refusing anyones advice. I actually saw him thank everyone for the advice. Ive read this thread 3 times to make sure i didn't miss anything. No where did OP say they were rejecting anyones advice and doing his own thing. And damn, this thread was posted little over 24 hours ago? WTF? Can he even have time to take in everything and adjust accordingly? Show me something that informs us that he is rejecting advice he got 24 hours ago? Some of you people....

[Riviere]

Maybe im lost, but I didn't read anything saying that he was refusing anyones advice. I actually saw him thank everyone for the advice. Ive read this thread 3 times to make sure i didn't miss anything. No where did OP say they were rejecting anyones advice and doing his own thing. And damn, this thread was posted little over 24 hours ago? WTF? Can he even have time to take in everything and adjust accordingly? Show me something that informs us that he is rejecting advice he got 24 hours ago? Some of you people....

He didn't say "I'm rejecting your advice.", but he was given the advice to do his job quests to get the AF gear and buy cheap accessories that will help him. His profile has updated, he has gained a level and he hasn't gotten any of the gear he was suggested to get, not even the AF which is given pretty much for free, 4 pieces at level 45.

That is not following the advice he was given. It doesn't even take long to do the quest.

[QiLymePye]

He didn't say "I'm rejecting your advice.", but he was given the advice to do his job quests to get the AF gear and buy cheap accessories that will help him. His profile has updated, he has gained a level and he hasn't gotten any of the gear he was suggested to get, not even the AF which is given pretty much for free, 4 pieces at level 45.

That is not following the advice he was given. It doesn't even take long to do the quest.

Like i said, He didn't reject it. But damn, its only been a day!!! Now if he came back sometime next week complaining about the same thing, then yes by all means, but seriously, not everybody gonna do things as fast as everybody else. Even if he did buy new gear, he said he was already on the MB when he was reading everybody's advice. Give the dude a chance. Man yall like sharks. And this is why its hard for newbies to get help, because if they don't do as you guys say when you say, they get attacked, even if they themselves asked for help. Yes he gained a lvl, don't even know how close he was to gaining that lvl. turn in a quest, gain a lvl. Yall judge to much.

[FedeMax]

He didn't say "I'm rejecting your advice.", but he was given the advice to do his job quests to get the AF gear and buy cheap accessories that will help him. His profile has updated, he has gained a level and he hasn't gotten any of the gear he was suggested to get, not even the AF which is given pretty much for free, 4 pieces at level 45.

That is not following the advice he was given. It doesn't even take long to do the quest.

Actually, you cannot follow what lodestone says. I am in the same server and he never logs out. Lodestone puts the last gear you had one when login out, he never does. That is why lodestone still shows the same gear he had when doing the post. He already have done the PLD quest and got the AF gear from the quests.