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    Sessurea's Avatar
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    Lanfear Sessurea
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 60
    It's horrible to not know the basics.....I think everyone knows the pain mate. Wish you were on odin I'd help ya out, feel sad for u, reading of ur experiences xc

    Take the forums with a pinch of salt too....everyone here is perfect! ( extreme sarcasm )
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    Last edited by Sessurea; 01-03-2015 at 12:57 PM.

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    Kaes's Avatar
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    Character
    Strawberry Cupcake
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 4
    Trying to understand what I was doing incorrectly, is the exact reason I made this thread. Because contrary to Hyunckel and Riviere's assumptions, I do care about being an effective player and not holding my group back. Yes, I have been reading guides, and asking friends on Twitter, and asked here on the forums because isn't this the official place where you can ask people for advice? If I planned on being carried in every single dungeon to troll people, why would I ask at all?

    It is not fun to be stuck in an instance for 90 minutes when you can clear previous ones in half the time. Not fun for anyone even if you don't have a queue time.

    Like you, Riviere, I didn't begin the Qarn quest until I felt I was ready to try the next level. Each day, even if I didn't have much time to play other content, I queued low-level roulette once per day for weeks. I did Sastasha, Tamtara and Haukke Manor so many times, and thanks to other players teaching in the dungeon, and some online guides, I learned how to keep aggro and have the party beat them on the first run.

    Doing the low level DRs also skyrocketed my PLD level by a free level every 2-3 days.

    Not very long ago I didn't know about stacking mobs or buffs multiplying enmity or why marking was important. Today I know and practice: flash twice, group mobs together for aoe, pull with shield lob, but don't use shield lob in melee, don't let GCD idle, preload combos, pop Fight or Flight cooldown for extra enmity. On my most recent run, a new person came into Tamtara, so I made sure to tell them what marking is and explained how some adds like Inconspicuous Imp can be more important to grab, then I made sure to mark the Imp when it spawned.

    Can you believe the first time I marked a mob for a party was two days ago? I hope I can continue learning.

    As mentioned in the first post, I suspected that gear deficiency could be affecting my aggro, but I wasn't sure the best approach to obtaining it therefore I decided to ask the forums. Most players were telling me that VIT should be the primary focus for tanks, therefore, my original focus was on leveling fast to get stat points to allocate VIT and increase my HP to maximum. Once I failed Qarn and realized there was a problem, my first instinct was to check the Market Board. Tbh I was really hoping that if I farmed low-level at 50 and saved up a lot of gil or tomes, I could trade with players or redeem tomes for the best stuff. Turns out that the best items actually can't be purchased, they come from untradable drops.

    I have the Lv45 Paladin job quest started, probably will have it completed tomorrow. I'll be taking a break from duty roulettes on PLD, I'll put the daily exp boost on CNJ instead so I can get stoneskin etc.

    How did I equip a new shield and gain a level? I bought it from the markets then did my daily DR habit then logged off last night. I didn't unlock Dzemael Darkhold, so I did not enter into DD.

    For everyone who has been offering advice and understanding so far, thank you again.
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    Last edited by Kaes; 01-03-2015 at 04:45 PM. Reason: expand

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    Yukiko's Avatar
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    Limsa Nominsa
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    Character
    Yukihko Kuroshima
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaes View Post
    Can you believe the first time I marked a mob for a party was two days ago? I hope I can continue learning.
    If you feel confident enough with your skills and markings (when you found your path)...
    Try to play a bit with the ingame macros! It will help to increase speed and marking things will make more fun...
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    Hyunckel's Avatar
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    Hyunckel Xanadu
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 52
    Your problem OP is that you only did Low Level Duty Roulette and managed to level up so much, and getting zero gear upgrades, for so long, of course you'll be in trouble.

    If you read your basic abilities and base stats' descriptions you would have seen that Vitality only increases HP and that (some of) your skills do increased enmity, which means... More enmity than they would do if you were not a tank, like... A dps. Yep the enmity you produce is based off the damage you output, that was logical wasn't it Increasing your HP is in no way gonna increase your enmity generation. Taking hits and survive is nice, if you can take them.

    Now instead of doing Low Level Duty Roulette every day and get so much XP that your gear is outdated since 25 ago, you should have just followed your main quest and do it to get sent to areas of your level, then do the side quests there for easy XP (and get your quest rewarded gear FOR FREE), do your class quest (which gives you mandatory talents, skills & FREE GEAR at Lv45, which you would have known if you searched for information on your own instead of relying on others ^^), if all else fails, check the arms & armor menders next to the aetheryte of your highest level zone. Don't you have to repair your gear every now and then? Didn't you see they sell gear for like 2k gil at most?

    You got plenty of advices in this thread, now it's time for you to learn it up => That is, if you really wanted to learn as you said, in which case you could have done so on your own like most of us did \(°o°)/

    Now I'll take my leave, we all gave you enough advice to be a god of tanking. I'll check every now and then your armory profile to see if you improved your gear at all xD

    There is a difference between searching for solutions on its own like a grownup, asking for help to solution specific problems (which is fine) and being spoonfed ^_^
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    Eltaire's Avatar
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    Character
    Venoix Fortemps
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    My Syrcus Tower party Vote Kicked a Ninja just today, for using his abilities to get to the arenas earlier than everyone else, and start a battle - locking out some of the Alliance members. By the time we got to Acheron, we'd all had enough, and no-one (including the other Alliances) refused to enter the Acheron arena until he, and another party member that was being equally annoying were Vote Kicked from my Party.
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