Au'ra conflict with lore?

[Balipu]

Another question would be what links do the Ascians have with the Allagans or are they similar?

Ahh, the million gill question. Based on what Lahabrea said about the Ultima spell we can be pretty sure that the Ascians are older than the Allagans. Wether they corrupted them is, unanswered at this point.

[treuhavik]

To clarify a few things; Davania is a region on our continent, Aldenard, and Meracydia is a separate continent to the south. It was/is the Meracydians who worship Bahamut. This is likely why the Allag enslaved their race, to feed Bahamut while he sat in Dalamund (cue "Answers").

I, personally, don't think the Au Ra are 'related' to any dragon-race we know of, if any at all. A case could be made if we're to look at the origin of all life on Hydaelyn though.

Also, I believe there is very little doubt now that the Ascians are influencing the Arch Bishop. The question now is, to what extent does their scheme permeate the Theocracy? Are all Ishgard's motives extrinsic, have they always been?

[Brickshouse]

I can imagine Koji rubbing his hands together and smiling at the speculations from all of us. It will be interesting to see how close (or not ) we are to the story as it unravels. But part of being a good story teller is for people to question where it goes from here, were they paying enough attention to the whole story or did they miss some little clues? I wonder what they can tell us now and what we have to wait for?

[Kaiser-Ace]

With the Ascians in control of so much I wouldn't be supprised if they are directly behind Garlemauld's rise from a no body city state to the most powerful empire since Allag.

By doing that they allowed the battle of silvertear skys to free the primals, manipulated the Ishgaudians to shutting off their borders at the same time as crushing Alahmigo, AND then tricking/manipulating Nael van Darnus to freeing Bahamut from Dalamuld with the meteor project.

Lets face it, it's exceptionally likly that we've done nothing but play into their hands the whole time. After all, one of the perks of immortality is the ability be VERY patient.

[Balipu]

Lets face it, it's exceptionally likely that we've done nothing but play into their hands the whole time. After all, one of the perks of immortality is the ability be VERY patient.

Yes, and Lahabrea is hinted to play the game since Hydaelyn showed up. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that even his defeat in the praetorium was part of the plan. Elidibus at first seemed to dislike Lahabrea and having a different plan but we saw the two of them together corrupting the Archbishop, so that was likely a lie. Question is, will we kick out Lahabrea before Ishgard becomes playable or will we be forced to fight for them against the dragons? We will likely know more in 2.5

As for the Au Ra, I'm sure they really are connected to dragons someway. That's what would make sense thematically with the expansion.

[jomoru]

To clarify a few things; Davania is a region on our continent, Aldenard, and Meracydia is a separate continent to the south. It was/is the Meracydians who worship Bahamut. This is likely why the Allag enslaved their race, to feed Bahamut while he sat in Dalamund (cue "Answers").

I, personally, don't think the Au Ra are 'related' to any dragon-race we know of, if any at all. A case could be made if we're to look at the origin of all life on Hydaelyn though.

Also, I believe there is very little doubt now that the Ascians are influencing the Arch Bishop. The question now is, to what extent does their scheme permeate the Theocracy? Are all Ishgard's motives extrinsic, have they always been?

We know from the Heaventurn events that there are explicitly Asian Style dragons in Othard. And Au ra are from Othard. And Au ra don't have wings. And maybe this will shut up the Shiva stuff.

[Balipu]

We know from the Heaventurn events that there are explicitly Asian Style dragons in Othard. And Au ra are from Othard. And Au ra don't have wings. And maybe this will shut up the Shiva stuff.

That did occur to me. The existence of asian stlye dragons I mean. But....that won't work. Look at the horns, especially the male horns. Asian dragons don't have horns like that.
Hey, what if Au Ra are somehow a hybrid of western and eastern dragons. More specificly a female eastern and a male western dragon. That would explain why there is such a significant dimorphism between the sexes and why Yugiri can lead the Domans. Her kind are symbols of wisdom for her people.

[jomoru]

That did occur to me. The existence of asian stlye dragons I mean. But....that won't work. Look at the horns, especially the male horns. Asian dragons don't have horns like that.
Hey, what if Au Ra are somehow a hybrid of western and eastern dragons. More specificly a female eastern and a male western dragon. That would explain why there is such a significant dimorphism between the sexes and why Yugiri can lead the Domans. Her kind are symbols of wisdom for her people.

There's actually a fairly wide range of horn types for different eastern dragons, its just the best known as a particular horn type. SE has done alot of obscure references with the Dravinian Horde so far with western stuff, it wouldn't be out of place to reference more obscure eastern dragons for the Au Ra diversity.

[Balipu]

There's actually a fairly wide range of horn types for different eastern dragons, its just the best known as a particular horn type. SE has done alot of obscure references with the Dravinian Horde so far with western stuff, it wouldn't be out of place to reference more obscure eastern dragons for the Au Ra diversity.

Good point. Still I'm kinda warming up to my sudden crazy idea of asian western union. It might seem odd to be a humanoid creature if both your parents were dragons, but it's not like other fantasy worlds don't have something similar. *cough* nephalem *cough*

[jomoru]

Good point. Still I'm kinda warming up to my sudden crazy idea of asian western union. It might seem odd to be a humanoid creature if both your parents were dragons, but it's not like other fantasy worlds don't have something similar. *cough* nephalem *cough*

We've seen shapeshifters explicitly in Dravinia and its pretty damned common in eastern myth.