2.4 Warrior BIS (Man Mode)

[Xenosys]

hey xeno did u put 30 vit in ur stats or 30 str? i went 30 str and trying to get my HP lower

Yea right now i am this weird vit/str specc'ed str/I90 acc shit lol
I am in desperate need of accuracy because the dread weapon and pants dont have any so right now I am 15 vit/15 str and wear two str acc for the Accuracy. Im going to put the last 15 points back into Str so ill have all 30 points again in str because i got an upgrade this week. Im aiming for 10500 hp for everything except MT on T13. I think MT on T13 should have 11k.

I dont like going all str acc because i find it you actually lose damage, I90 ruby lets you drop defiance a lot more while tanking and i think that is the key to maximizing tank dps output. My mentality is... "Defiance is a defensive CD, not a Tanking Stance" I MT a lot so this build may very from person to person depending on how much you MT. In my group comp the pld(Chet) is OT slightly more than I am, excluding T13. We maximize tank damage by keeping sword oath and warrior MT as much as possible.

[d4gz]

I see, im dps OT so i need moar str, im trying to get vit from left side gear rihht now still rocking crafted chest. Specially for t13. I only pop defiance on adds and ahk morn. T11 is the hardest fight for me to dps specially the last phase

[Ehayte]

I MT a lot so this build may very from person to person depending on how much you MT. In my group comp the pld(Chet) is OT slightly more than I am, excluding T13. We maximize tank damage by keeping sword oath and warrior MT as much as possible.

I'm relieved to hear someone else say that. I recently switched to WAR main from being a DPS and it took me 3 weeks of FCoB to ascribe to being a str spec'd WAR. I really didn't think it mattered even though I was well informed. The extra 60-80dps you can push by focusing on STR is very very impactful in many fights. Me switching from STR from VIT allowed us to clear T12 easily. We went from barely beating the 6th Bennu and dying to enrage to easily pushing 4 and getting easy clears, mainly from me going from 140 dps to 230 by re-speccing. If there are any WARs out there still going 100% vit and trying to push content. Stop it, just stop it.

I am currently trying to convince my group to let me take 2 Revelations in T12 in a row (using holmgang followed by BB/serk/Conval/IB/infur/IB : D) so that our PLD can sit in sword Oath for longer. We just started pushing 4 Bennus last week but I want MOAR DPS. My healers like your guides a lot so maybe I can convince them it would be awesome if I quote them the above, haha.

[SirTaint]

I'm relieved to hear someone else say that. I recently switched to WAR main from being a DPS and it took me 3 weeks of FCoB to ascribe to being a str spec'd WAR. I really didn't think it mattered even though I was well informed. The extra 60-80dps you can push by focusing on STR is very very impactful in many fights. Me switching from STR from VIT allowed us to clear T12 easily. .

Be careful how you word things. 60-80 DPS isn't helping you skip a Bennu and certainly doesn't take you from 6 to 4 (that's shaving off at least 1:01 off the phase)

WAR/PLD/SCH DPS is very important in FCoB but its the cumulative effect of those 3 jobs DPS AND your main DPS getting better gear and familiar with min/max points in each turn that make turns like 12 much easier to deal with now as apposed to 3-4 weeks ago.

[Ehayte]

Be careful how you word things. 60-80 DPS isn't helping you skip a Bennu and certainly doesn't take you from 6 to 4 (that's shaving off at least 1:01 off the phase)

WAR/PLD/SCH DPS is very important in FCoB but its the cumulative effect of those 3 jobs DPS AND your main DPS getting better gear and familiar with min/max points in each turn that make turns like 12 much easier to deal with now as apposed to 3-4 weeks ago.

OK, hyperbole police. Thanks.

[SirTaint]

OK, hyperbole police. Thanks.

Sure until you see a full STR WAR reading your post and trying to convince his group that his DPS is the key to success. As I said be careful how you word things. Obviously 60-80 isn't doing much to push a phase in 12, but most people reading this forum have never stepped foot in FCoB.

[Ehayte]

Sure until you see a full STR WAR reading your post and trying to convince his group that his DPS is the key to success. As I said be careful how you word things. Obviously 60-80 isn't doing much to push a phase in 12, but most people reading this forum have never stepped foot in FCoB.

60-80 dps is doing a lot to help push a phase. Its certainly not going to do it by itself, but it helps a lot. What it did was get us close enough to the point that everyone did all of the small things in their rotations to make sure we were maxed on DPS because it became attainable. When you are 45 seconds off you aren't going to do every little thing you can to push a phase, but when you get to the point that you are 10, 15, 20 seconds off, it becomes attainable and people start to push themselves.

A WAR going from mid 100s to mid 200s is going to have a substantial effect on your fights. If you group is doing 2000 DPS with you VIT spec'd and 2100 with you STR spec'd, that's a 5% increase in DPS - that is massive!

Look, I'm not trying to butt heads or anything, and I was just being rhetorically snarky in my previous response, but I do stand by the fact that a WAR changing from 430 STR to 540 STR is going to make a noticeable difference in your coil encounters.

[Lavieh]

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You can get more DPS by just having your PLD tank in Sword Oath. In T12 our PLD tanks in Sword Oath, Tanks all 3 Revelations (We skip one in Phase 1, so by the time the first one is Phase 2 comes the debuff wears off, He also switches to shield oath at around 63%, because that is when he burns through his tp)

PLD Main tank is definitely a better DPS choice given better gear and skilled players. Considering that a PLD can tank fights like T10 and T12 in Sword oath for a majority of the time. In fights where you aren't as geared or aren't as a skilled, PLD is still the better main tank.

[SirTaint]

Look, I'm not trying to butt heads or anything, and I was just being rhetorically snarky in my previous response, but I do stand by the fact that a WAR changing from 430 STR to 540 STR is going to make a noticeable difference in your coil encounters.

I 100% agree with you. Was just clarifying for the crowd.

Lavieh: the ideal rotation is WAR tanking when unchained is available and PLD tanking when its down. T12 is an excellent fight for tanks to DPS. I sword oath close to 90 seconds in Phase 1-2 and that's not even optimized. I do stay in Shield oath while MTing which allows our SCH to go in full DPS mode. SCH DPS has allowed us to push 1 blackfire, 4 Bennu NP and we only see 4 fountains. (one dodge phase)

[Lavieh]

Lavieh: the ideal rotation is WAR tanking when unchained is available and PLD tanking when its down. T12 is an excellent fight for tanks to DPS. I sword oath close to 90 seconds in Phase 1-2 and that's not even optimized. I do stay in Shield oath while MTing which allows our SCH to go in full DPS mode. SCH DPS has allowed us to push 1 blackfire, 4 Bennu NP and we only see 4 fountains. (one dodge phase)

Gear and player comfortability.

Our PLD stays Sword Oath and our SCH full time DPS. We push 3 Bennu's though and we have gotten lucky with Tank gear. While it is a known fact that in tank stances WAR does more damage, PLD is an overall better choice for MT because of mitigation and healer DPS. Only point I am trying to refute is that WAR as the tank vs PLD as the tank has little to no impactful difference and in most cases PLD will be the better choice for MTing for both DPS and safety reasons.