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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavieh View Post
    421 Skill speed is not the magic number it is just the number you got from the i90 STR accessories last patch.

    Do we listen to everything someone says in a video?
    While it's true that 390-ish is the magic number for hitting the 9 skill Berserk, it can be quite finicky. 400+ gives you slightly more leeway, so I can understand Xeno's recommendation of 421. But due to not needing more than 390 to actually hit it, it's best to stay closer to that number than to move all the way to 421, especially when using pure STR accessories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    While it's true that 390-ish is the magic number for hitting the 9 skill Berserk, it can be quite finicky. 400+ gives you slightly more leeway, so I can understand Xeno's recommendation of 421. But due to not needing more than 390 to actually hit it, it's best to stay closer to that number than to move all the way to 421, especially when using pure STR accessories.
    Magic number is like 376, Xeno said 421 because that is the SKS he had.
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  3. #13
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    I imagine 376 would be doable but incredibly strict on the timing. 390 seems a lot more fluid. Haven't tested it though, so won't say for certain.
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    I'm going to look at the numbers later, but for now I just have one question: "Man Mode"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dotsusama View Post
    I'm going to look at the numbers later, but for now I just have one question: "Man Mode"?
    In this context, it means not overloading yourself with VIT and instead investing the excess VIT into STR. So, not having a giant unnecessary cushion of HP = "Man Mode".
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    This is right, though I'd exchange the Ironworks chest for the Dread chest (same acc, 47 parry vs 34 det). It's also pretty important that it requires 0 Dread accessories so achieving it is less RNG dependent than a full STR set.
    yes the chest was a mistake i didn't notice it, i also did another set with relic (i have 24 acc 24 crit 35 det atm on mine) since they already annouced another step that should be 135 (i hope); the set would be like this http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OZW2. You have to change augmente earring with dreadwyrm and you get a lot of det 371 :Q_
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    Xenosys Vex
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavieh View Post
    Magic number is like 376, Xeno said 421 because that is the SKS he had.

    I say 421 because of my connection and ping. It also lines up extremely well with the I90 ruby crafted. Depending on your connection you will definitely be able to get away with less. However I will caution you that if you dip below 400 you run the risk of losing the 9th attack because of the boss moving even so slightly. Right now I am currently at 410 and it is pretty consistent.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felorr View Post
    Shout out to Xenosys Vex for inspiring me to work on this gear list.

    I have put together a list of gear to meet the accuracy cap for T13 (560), and maximize strength and determination while minimizing parry:

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OZB4

    601 strength, 568 accuracy, 455 critical hit chance, 329 determination, 420, skill speed, 7939 HP out of defiance (roughly 9925 HP in defiance depending on racial stats) and 394 parry.

    This build requires Lava Toad Legs to meet the accuracy cap. An alternative build leads to less accuracy and skill speed, as well as slightly more crit:

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OZFC

    I am aware that 421 skill speed is the magic number to attain 9 GCD skills before pacification following berserk. I am not positive if a skill speed of 420 is enough to achieve the same results and am unable to test at the moment. If that is the case, it may be possible that the 471 crit/405 SS build outperforms the 455 crit/420 skillspeed.


    Hey Felorr, thx for the shout out man! Im really diggin your builds
    Its possible to achieve the 9th attack from zerk at around 391 i think? O.o
    Although depending on your connection, ping and the bosses movements it might not be possible.
    Right now i have about 410 and only miss the ninth hit on rare occasions so I would say experiment a little and see how low you can go!

    Here is the build im aiming for: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OH3T

    My build has much more ruby but after looking at yours im really thinking about adding more STR! haha
    The build focuses on having a minimum of 10500 hp in party with food. I believe this is the new "HP Threshold" with MT T13 being at 11k.
    But then again "HP Threshold" cant be exactly the same for every encounter or person. Comfort level and familarity with the encounters play a much bigger role than people think.
    But yea overall I really like your builds!
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    Last edited by Xenosys; 12-27-2014 at 10:08 PM.

  10. #20
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    hey xeno did u put 30 vit in ur stats or 30 str? i went 30 str and trying to get my HP lower
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