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    2.4 Warrior BIS (Man Mode)

    Shout out to Xenosys Vex for inspiring me to work on this gear list.

    I have put together a list of gear to meet the accuracy cap for T13 (560), and maximize strength and determination while minimizing parry:

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OZB4

    601 strength, 568 accuracy, 455 critical hit chance, 329 determination, 420, skill speed, 7939 HP out of defiance (roughly 9925 HP in defiance depending on racial stats) and 394 parry.

    This build requires Lava Toad Legs to meet the accuracy cap. An alternative build leads to less accuracy and skill speed, as well as slightly more crit:

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OZFC

    I am aware that 421 skill speed is the magic number to attain 9 GCD skills before pacification following berserk. I am not positive if a skill speed of 420 is enough to achieve the same results and am unable to test at the moment. If that is the case, it may be possible that the 471 crit/405 SS build outperforms the 455 crit/420 skillspeed.
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    Talon Shadowsong
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    Well, I will start by saying that T13 ACC is only 558, although I haven't tested lower to say for sure. So, your proposed set is overshooting ACC by 10, which is fine if it can reach the magic number of Skill Speed for the 9 hit zerk. However, this set is forgoing 22 DET and 23 CRIT compared to the following:

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OVWV

    While meeting ACC cap, almost dead on (559) and maximizing both DET and CRIT and running with the lowest Parry possible. This set will likely outdo the secondary set purposed. As you mentioned however, IF 420 SS cannot actually achieve the 9 hit zerk, then both set are inferior to the set above as the 22 DET that both sets miss.
    So, a final recap. The set I posted has:
    -10 ACC
    +22 DET
    +23 CRIT
    -44 SS
    (vs. 1st set you posted)
    and
    -5 ACC
    +22 DET
    +7 CRIT
    -29 SS
    (vs. 2nd set you posted)
    If you cannot reach the 9 hits per berserk then Skill Speed because far less valuable and should reach for the highest DET and CRIT. My set is using Steamed Catfish for the ACC value.
    I am of the belief that a full STR set should be used for all turns, just like any other patch, so build how you wish.
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    Last edited by Talon_Luna; 12-26-2014 at 05:08 AM.

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    I have misses recorded at 556 and none at 558. I have not tested 557.
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    I have misses recorded at 556 and none at 558. I have not tested 557.

    390 SS is the minimum for a 9 hit zerk with great timing. 420 makes it easy.
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    I thought the magic number was originally 390, but for some reason I 2nd guessed it when I looked at this thread.
    With that said, we can achieve a proper ACC rating, 300+ DET and moderate CRIT whilst maintaining our 390 SS with the following:
    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OZH1
    564 ACC
    469 CRIT
    340 DET
    398 SS
    Flint Caviar HQ is used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talon_Luna View Post
    I thought the magic number was originally 390, but for some reason I 2nd guessed it when I looked at this thread.
    With that said, we can achieve a proper ACC rating, 300+ DET and moderate CRIT whilst maintaining our 390 SS with the following:
    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OZH1
    564 ACC
    469 CRIT
    340 DET
    398 SS
    Flint Caviar HQ is used.
    Looking at the food buffs, Apkallu Omelettes can be used instead of Flint Caviar to still attain 558 accuracy without a loss to any damage stats. And its only about a 140 HP difference.
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    the gear calculator put by default 30 points in vit on war so:

    - that set will give you 115 str and 30 points in vit stat;
    - ivl110 craft accessories will give you 18 str each for a total of 90 but they let up put 30 points in str so basically 120;

    you get 5 more str with melded accessories.

    i think the best option is mix the sets like 2 melded accessories and 3 ivl130 accessories like this set:

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OZL8 this set will give you 135 str from accessories (with 110 melded acc ofc)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElrohirFefalas View Post
    the gear calculator put by default 30 points in vit on war so:

    - that set will give you 115 str and 30 points in vit stat;
    - ivl110 craft accessories will give you 18 str each for a total of 90 but they let up put 30 points in str so basically 120;

    you get 5 more str with melded accessories.

    i think the best option is mix the sets like 2 melded accessories and 3 ivl130 accessories like this set:

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OZL8 this set will give you 135 str from accessories (with 110 melded acc ofc)


    Yeah that is how it works.

    Start with Full STR accessories > add hybrid for more HP > add VIT for even more HP > Full VIT

    Some people get hung up with i90 when they could easily add some full STR accessories and still meet their VIT needs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElrohirFefalas View Post
    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OZL8 this set will give you 135 str from accessories (with 110 melded acc ofc)
    This is right, though I'd exchange the Ironworks chest for the Dread chest (same acc, 47 parry vs 34 det). It's also pretty important that it requires 0 Dread accessories so achieving it is less RNG dependent than a full STR set.
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    421 Skill speed is not the magic number it is just the number you got from the i90 STR accessories last patch.

    Do we listen to everything someone says in a video?
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