No More Classes?

[Mimilu]

People could have a CNJ base class and use DKN crystal, they would be a tank capable of using Medica II!! But with low HP and only cross class CDs.

I think a Tank or DPS with healing power equal to a Healer would be way too OP and would make it almost mandatory to play as the new jobs and could remove the need for Healers if everyone could heal at the drop of a hat.
1.0 played similar to this and most players wanted classes to have more distinct roles and limitations.

[Jandor]

I think (ok, hope) job crystals might get there own levels that overwrite the base classes levels in the expansion.


Jobs with base classes will level the class in parallel with the crystal. Jobs without wouldn't.
So for instance putting one level on Bard would also automatically put an extra level on Archer. However putting Dark Knight on a level 30 Archer will overwrite your class abilities and gaining a level on it wouldn't advance you as an Archer.

Would also work well for Arcanist/Summoner/Scholar. They could finally have distinct stats, you could also have Summoner or Scholar alter the base class much more drastically.


Edit: The old 2.0 jobs should be signposted much more clearly, under this system getting an archer to level 34 then getting your job stone would reset you to level 30 bard, which would be annoying.

[Roxas_Andrade]

I think a Tank or DPS with healing power equal to a Healer would be way too OP and would make it almost mandatory to play as the new jobs and could remove the need for Healers if everyone could heal at the drop of a hat.
1.0 played similar to this and most players wanted classes to have more distinct roles and limitations.

Well, in this system, if you're a DPS with a healer class, you will not be as good as a full DPS and you will not heal like a healer. If you're MND specd, your dps lowers, if you're STR, INT, DEX specd, you won't be so good at healing (maybe people complained on version 1.0, but there's a larger base of players now). The ideal would be using the same role for both class/job in hi-end content to ensure max performance. Or use a "hybrid class" for future solo content, like solo dungeons and raids, maybe 1x1 pvp...

[Kuwagami]

Sorry, I couldnt disagree with you more. Classes are needed, without classes you paint yourself into a corner and then What? At least if you have classes new jobs can branch of of them. ie: Ranger from archer. Samurai from Glad. I could going forever,so lets not throw away ours classes so quick. Just my opinion
ps. I still use my classes, its my choice.

Consideing the failure of SMN/SCH branching from ACN (can't use both to their max potential at the same time, unable to balance one without imbalancing the other...), I'm pretty sure there won't be any more branching jobs in the near future. Not until the sort things out.

I think the reduction of that item that resets your points from 10000 GC seals to 250 is just for that. When you wanna be a SMN you respec to INT, when you wanna be a SCH, respec to MND. Easy like that. And there's always a possibility of new jobs with the same specs branching from the same class. Like SMN/Necromancer branching from ACN or BRD/Ranger branching from ARC and using DEX as main stat...

see failure #2 to see why it's still not a good idea. Also, see the bunch of threads asking for an upgrade of SMN and the lack of available solutions without making SCH OP in a way or an other

[Roxas_Andrade]

Consideing the failure of SMN/SCH branching from ACN (can't use both to their max potential at the same time, unable to balance one without imbalancing the other...), I'm pretty sure there won't be any more branching jobs in the near future. Not until the sort things out.

I think the reduction of that item that resets your points from 10000 GC seals to 250 is just for that. When you wanna be a SMN you respec to INT, when you wanna be a SCH, respec to MND. Easy like that. And there's always a possibility of new jobs with the same specs branching from the same class. Like SMN/Necromancer branching from ACN or BRD/Ranger branching from ARC and using DEX as main stat...

[FranSeara]

The Whole glimed Smn/Scholar is a dead idea. I play both well, I main Smn. With the right gear on Scholar and good healing habits you can make up the gap.
"That's my opinion"

[Asheilin]

From everything I've seenand heard about ffxiv from 1.0 and everything current; its obvious that changing 1.0's class system to a plain job systen (which they are acting like they want to do) would have been too difficult at 2.0 since so much was already made. However classes, as applied in XIV, are against every other FF title in the series. In other FF titles they're called classes but are the JOBS. Yoshi-P has stated in live letters and interviews that many of the changes he's made is to put it back in line with other FF games by returning the FEEL of the series to XIV. The class system is one of the few remaining break-points that hasn't been changed over the course of 2.0 and with 3.0 looming and three Jobs being stated as Classless, I think the 3.0 patch will have a number of changes to the Class System we see today.

However, to everyone saying that with the class system gone, so to will be cross class skills. lol The system for that isn't restricted to classes. a WHM will still be able to set Swiftcast, a WAR flash, etc. But the abilities are going to be listed as a BLM skill, or a PLD skill....not THM or MRD.

[FranSeara]

So what happens if you happen to be a Lv 28 MRD then pass lv 30? Do you just become a War? Would you be able to stay a Lv 33 MRD?

[ChameleonMS]

So what happens if you happen to be a Lv 28 MRD then pass lv 30? Do you just become a War? Would you be able to stay a Lv 33 MRD?

You do not become a warrior until you complete the quest Pride and Duty. Additionally, you must level a Gladiator to level 15 to unlock this quest.
They are rare but I have seen a level 50 Marauder.

[FranSeara]

You do not become a warrior until you complete the quest Pride and Duty. Additionally, you must level a Gladiator to level 15 to unlock this quest.
They are rare but I have seen a level 50 Marauder.

Now a Lv 47 Mard and a Level 50 Archer. lol I hate Bard.