No More Classes?

[FranSeara]

Well, if the class system is falling apart as it seems, I think you will start with a warrior at lv 1, and you will only get good skills (the job ones) doing the quests at lvs 15, 30, 35, 40, 45, 50 and so on... Who is already a lv50 Warrior will remain as it is.

So "What If I dont want to play War" would my lv 50 Mard just disappear?

[Conradus]

You do not become a warrior until you complete the quest Pride and Duty. Additionally, you must level a Gladiator to level 15 to unlock this quest.
They are rare but I have seen a level 50 Marauder.

Not Marauder, but I regularly solo as a lvl 50 Thaumaturge. It's so handy having the CNJ abilities on my toolbar. And yes, I do have Black Mage, which I will take to parties, of course.

[FranSeara]

Geez, It didnt stop me from clearing all the 2nd coil. Also, its my choice to play a class and not a job and theres nothing anyone can do about it in my PF. Songs are useless if no one needs them, with everyone being over gear for contant now having songs wasnt important to my group. The main point is it CAN be done. I wouldnt do it with any hard core people because most of them cant think out side the box but in a pre-made party it works. It was a experiment and it worked for us. Sorry if you dont like it. ps: I suffered very little DPS lose to the point it didnt matter. 1% dps didnt kill our chances of winning any battles.
The fact is people just HATE classes. Thats my opinion.

[Stihllodeing]

Geez, It didnt stop me from clearing all the 2nd coil. Also, its my choice to play a class and not a job and theres nothing anyone can do about it in my PF. Songs are useless if no one needs them, with everyone being over gear for contant now having songs wasnt important to my group. The main point is it CAN be done. I wouldnt do it with any hard core people because most of them cant think out side the box but in a pre-made party it works. It was a experiment and it worked for us. Sorry if you dont like it. ps: I suffered very little DPS lose to the point it didnt matter. 1% dps didnt kill our chances of winning any battles.
The fact is people just HATE classes. Thats my opinion.

More fact as opposed to opinion at this point...imo.

Am I the only one that sees, "doing away with classes" and thinks, "GREAT, now the jobs are going to be more linear than they are..."? The class system is one of the only things currently in the game that can give our characters a snows balls chance in hell in the future of seeing any kind of horizontal progression we have all hoped for for a while now.

The choice words that comes to mind when I see "doing away with classes" is vertical, same, unoriginal.

[EliseDee]

Classes were the only part of the armory system that was kept from the old game. The thing is THEY DID NOTHING TO MAKE CLASSES VIABLE END GAME! That pisses me off more then anything else. Infact i game here to bitch and complain about that when I saw this post so i thought i would leave my two cents here instead of starting a whole new post about relatively the same subject matter. I have all this gear that says arc/brd thf/nin pug/mnk and it is all END GAME GEAR.

[EliseDee]

So why the fuck are my classes not END GAME VIABLE! whats the point of having this gear if at no point ever its going to be of any use to my classes because you destroyed what was actually the only good thing about FFXIV 1.0. The ability to use skills from all other classes and the option of using latent abilities (aka traits) from other classes as well. Infact it almost seems to punish you for WANTING to play a class. Oh...you wanna be a thief not a ninja...well fuck you no combat stealth you are now considered worthless. Oh you want to play a archer instead of a bard oh...let me drop your dex cap down by 30 and not give you anything to make up for it. I personally think they are taking a part of the game that would add so much diversity to tactics and custom builds for classes as opposed to the more cookie cutter jobs.

[EliseDee]

They are killing the original idea behind the class system. Thanks for trying your best yoshi, but i guess appeasing cry babies by making things easier is much more of a focus then building a game that has any debt to it at all. The gear system is already pointless because every update things get easier so me doing it the hard way made it all for nothing cause some one else can do it later at easy mode and feel special. I think at this point he really needs to talk to the devs about a way to start pleasing the Hardcore gamers as well as the casuals cause right now all i see is pandering to those who werent around when this game was a heaping pile of garbage and still supported because the system had so much potential for greatness. FIX THE FUCKING CLASS SYSTEM!

[Asheilin]

So why the fuck are my classes not END GAME VIABLE! whats the point of having this gear ....

You want to know the point? RETAINERS. They have no JOBS. though if they do get rid of the useless class system in 3.0; that will change hopefully. My smn has i90 gear, my retainer is arcanist but can't wear it as the i90 gear she has was SMN only; and building up the crafted stuff is a pain while trying to gear out nin, brd and sch. the gear that lists classes, is completely for the purpose of using as retainer gear after your done with it

[Mimilu]

You want to know the point? RETAINERS. They have no JOBS. though if they do get rid of the useless class system in 3.0; that will change hopefully. My smn has i90 gear, my retainer is arcanist but can't wear it as the i90 gear she has was SMN only; and building up the crafted stuff is a pain while trying to gear out nin, brd and sch. the gear that lists classes, is completely for the purpose of using as retainer gear after your done with it

Keeping gear is also good for when new classes/jobs come out. >3>
It's also good for making money with via converting into materia.

[Asheilin]

Keeping gear is also good for when new classes/jobs come out. >3>
It's also good for making money with via converting into materia.

lol yeah; but the main reason end game gear has classes on it isn't either of those; and thats what the other poster was talking about