No More Classes?

[Mirron]

Er... no classes in this case simply means that they aren't doing the whole class/job distinction from here on out. I sincerely down Dark Knight and co. are just going to have seven skills. The distinction is kind of silly anyways, but it'd be tricky to remove entirely.

[Amnesia]

One of the things I like about the class/job system was how when you equip the job crystal, you have access to the base class's skills, plus a (limited) number of other class's skills.
How are they going to handle that in the future? Will these three jobs only be able to use some of each other's skills? And will any of the original ARR classes/jobs be able to access the skills from these new jobs?

[FranSeara]

[QUOTE=Hiruke;2660534]Classes are essentially useless, and we'd be much better off without them. I'd rather see SCH get their own dps skills that borrow from SMN, and I think many would rather be able to allocate bonus stats differently to SMN and SCH rather than them share a set. There's really very little legitimate reason to use a class once you have the job, and the cons heavily outweight the pros, so what's the benefit of having classes as a system to begin with?


Sorry, I couldnt disagree with you more. Classes are needed, without classes you paint yourself into a corner and then What? At least if you have classes new jobs can branch of of them. ie: Ranger from archer. Samurai from Glad. I could going forever,so lets not throw away ours classes so quick. Just my opinion
ps. I still use my classes, its my choice.

[Meier]

I hope they ditch classes too. They have no use anymore. They did in 1.0, but they changed the game, battle system, etc so much that they just need to ditch it. It'll make it easier for them to make the jobs feel more different and unique too.

[Mirron]

[QUOTE=FranSeara;2664762]

Classes are essentially useless, and we'd be much better off without them. I'd rather see SCH get their own dps skills that borrow from SMN, and I think many would rather be able to allocate bonus stats differently to SMN and SCH rather than them share a set. There's really very little legitimate reason to use a class once you have the job, and the cons heavily outweight the pros, so what's the benefit of having classes as a system to begin with?


Sorry, I couldnt disagree with you more. Classes are needed, without classes you paint yourself into a corner and then What? At least if you have classes new jobs can branch of of them. ie: Ranger from archer. Samurai from Glad. I could going forever,so lets not throw away ours classes so quick. Just my opinion
ps. I still use my classes, its my choice.

You'll have to explain this. If they removed classes, what exactly would prevent them from just making a Samurai or Ranger?

[FranSeara]

They still could make a Ranger or Samurai but it wouldnt make much sense to "me" to have a Job come out of nowhere. Just like Dark Knight, where does it come from...nowhere??? The Glad/Mard classes could have served as a base for Dark Knight. But you know...lets throw away classes.
ps: "I" wouldnt level and Job from level 1 it takes too long now with the Q wait. My opinion

[Mirron]

It's a self-contained job without having the clunky divide between class and job, which only exists because of 1.0 currently. Dark Knight's just start at level 1 and you have to level them up like anything else.

[Roxas_Andrade]

I just thought of this and I'd like to discuss.
Maybe all this "No base class involved" work in a different way (I'd like to):
You will do your DKN, AST and MCH (my guess on shorts) quest with any class you want, right? What if you earn their crystals and you're free to use them with whatever class you want, no mandatory base class? We already have a role change depending on the crystal you use (ACN -> SMN-DPS/SCH-Healer).

People could have a CNJ base class and use AST crystal, they would remain as a Healer.
People could have a CNJ base class and use DKN crystal, they would be a tank capable of using Medica II!! But with low HP and only cross class CDs.
People could have a DPS base class and use DKN crystal to be excellent offtanks.

Of course some combinations will be better than others, but we will have a lot more diversity and could do new and wonderful things with these "hybrid" classes/jobs. A lot of dumbness could occur too, for sure, but people will learn the best ways.

[Mirron]

Considering I'm pretty sure they said that you are leveling the jobs from 1-60, it's likely that they aren't doing the class/job split for these jobs, and instead just labeling them as jobs from the get go.

[VanilleFang]

I believe they are getting rid of classes and cross-class skills in general - not killed outright but left to die a "natural death" via neglect; they will get more and more useless as they add more and more abilities to Jobs.

Swiftcast will never be useless. If you think it will then you obviously don't heal.