The Ninja Superthread

[AspectOfWinter]

Nin isn't op at all, mnks are still top dps (aingle target) while nin and drg fall slightly behind.

They're probably the weakest melee class currently.

Interesting, I wonder if the Ninjustsu button presses have anything to do with this? Because going by the original potencies of the attacks I wouldn't have been surprised if Ninja DPS had been higher than DRG and MNK by as much as 20%.

In Warlords of Draenor right now, Marksman Hunter is above Beast Mastery by about that much, by the way. Maybe Square Enix is far better than Blizzard at balancing classes?

[Aiurily]

the real question really is if getting skill speed to have dots/de always line up perfectly is worth it compared to pretty much being guaranteed to drop DE on reapplication/DoTs for 1 tick every now and then. at 390 with average mudra speeds you'll probably end up dropping de/dots for a tick sometimes, at 455~ it's pretty lenient, 495~ it's easy

[ShaolinMike]

I've adjusted to the (OG) position of the dot in the middle of our screen that determines placement of ground target abilities.

Most of the time when you Shukuchi you already have an idea of where you are going; so simply set your camera's position in the direction you are about to go before you make the decision to teleport.

This. Also, don't try to pinpoint an exact position of where you want to teleport; just get the cursor in the ballpark.

[FyrmurlFloerasksyn]

How much dps for a i110 nin with vajras weapon should i be aiming for roughly?

[treuhavik]

How much dps for a i110 nin with vajras weapon should i be aiming for roughly?

Somewhere in the 455-465 range is good for that ilvl.

[treuhavik]

the real question really is if getting skill speed to have dots/de always line up perfectly is worth it compared to pretty much being guaranteed to drop DE on reapplication/DoTs for 1 tick every now and then. at 390 with average mudra speeds you'll probably end up dropping de/dots for a tick sometimes, at 455~ it's pretty lenient, 495~ it's easy

Hell, even with 476 I drop DE on occasion. Though, by that time I'm working on getting it back up so the only thing the debuff is missing is at most a Gust Slash and DE itself. DoTs though, not so much.

[Velhart]

Nice thread, keep up the good work.

[Arkenne]

Well, some more info for Shuriken, as already stated its considered as Physical Damage, and is affected by both Venoms, but also by Dancing Edge.
Still, while my Raiton does 600, Shuriken only reaches up to 500, but a lot faster regardless.

Very recommended that if you are having lag issues focus on using Shuriken instead of Raiton unless Kassatsu or not in melee range.

[Aiurily]

if you're keen on using shuriken instead of raiton, look into altering your suiton+ta timing. if you TA at 0.5s-1s left on suiton, your next ninjutsu (shuriken) will benefit from TA, making the potency difference a bit smaller

[Dervy]

These are the projected NIN weights. Not final, but pretty close to what they will be. Any further changes will be in the thousandth decimal place.

WD: 9.132
DEX: 1
DET: 0.325
CRT: 0.226
SS: 0.215