The Ninja Superthread

[Dervy]

The same can be exactly said about SF. In fact, an SF without DE applied is an even greater PPS loss as it used every 20s for a potency of 240. That's an approx 1.3 PPS loss if it isn't buffed with DE. You might of seen a DPS increase as the SF combo is stronger than DE combo and using it first does result in an increased DPS, but it isn't optimised.

I've also noticed a pattern with my SIM. The NIN's GDC layout is scarily similar to that of a Dragoon... The priority can actually loop - though the loop is much longer then that of the Dragoon.

SGD: Dancing Edge Combo
SF: Shadow Fang Combo
SGA: Aeolian Edge Combo:
MU: Mutiliate

SGD SF MU SGA
SGD SF SGA
SGD MU SF SGA
SGD SF SGA MU
SGD SF SGA

I'd like someone to try it if possible and see what you think of it. This was taking into consideration a SkillSpeed of 438 on your gear, and Huton with 100% uptime.

[treuhavik]

SGD SF MU SGA
SGD SF SGA
SGD MU SF SGA
SGD SF SGA MU
SGD SF SGA

I'd like someone to try it if possible and see what you think of it. This was taking into consideration a SkillSpeed of 438 on your gear, and Huton with 100% uptime.

I'm on it. This is without buffs, mutilate or ninjutsu?

EDIT: I'm going to assume you meant to put mutilate in place of Mug :P

All I can really say is that it lines up nicely. Without factoring in jutsu, buffs and other oGCDs, I can't tell how well it'll do.

EDIT2: Tossed oGCDs and the normal jutsu roatation in and got 492 - This is with me accidently repeating the 3rd line and dropping Huton for a good 5 seconds so I'm sure it can do much better.

[Leonus]

I'm on it. This is without buffs, mutilate or ninjutsu?

EDIT: I'm going to assume you meant to put mutilate in place of Mug :P

All I can really say is that it lines up nicely. Without factoring in jutsu, buffs and other oGCDs, I can't tell how well it'll do.

EDIT2: Tossed oGCDs and the normal jutsu roatation in and got 492 - This is with me accidently repeating the 3rd line and dropping Huton for a good 5 seconds so I'm sure it can do much better.

We would have to throw in jutsus right? Only real way to see how well it loops with everything?

Edit: Dervy

What you posted can actually be simplified as..
DE > SF > Mutilate > AE

Then you just follow DE> SF> AE and apply mutilate as it drops. Does that line up with the sim?

[treuhavik]

We would have to throw in jutsus right? Only real way to see how well it loops with everything?

Yeah.

So this is how I opened -

SE > BfB > Mug > GS > IR > DE > SF > M > SE > GS > AE > Jugulate
SE > Suiton > GS > TA > DE > Kass > SF > Raiton > SE > AE

once all that was said and done, it was just pop buffs/oGCDs on CD and cycle through jutsu while keeping everything up.

Scored me 499 and I'm sure there's more optimal places to slot everything.

[Dervy]

What you posted can actually be simplified as..
DE > SF > Mutilate > AE

Then you just follow DE> SF> AE and apply mutilate as it drops. Does that line up with the sim?

Essentially, yeah.

The reason why I listed it like that was because Mutilates DoTs drops off at different intervals each time you use it and so you could see clearly when it's best to use it without clipping dots or losing out on DoT ticks.

[treuhavik]

As far as SkSp is concerned, mine caused no problems with this rotation and I can actually see that with more it would be smoother. (again, I'm at 476)