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  1. #251
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    ManweSulimo's Avatar
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    Manwe Sulimo
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurnBased View Post
    It's all well and good that you think that.
    FFXIV operates on a paid subscription. It is not an F2P game.
    I guess I am hoping that this game won't fit into the box of either one if the two things are the antithesis of each other. Maybe this game can balance and have the best of both worlds? Dunno. I know that not everyone will like everything and there's nothing anyone can do to make everyone happy but personally I think this game is freaking awesome and this stuff doesn't affect me in a negative way and I'm sure there are tons of people that this is also the case for.
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  2. #252
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    Rei'sela Leiyal
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    to be quite honest, I'd pay 3-4 million for the full dyeable wedding package and mount. I however will not spend 20-40$ for it. I can find a dozen RL things I'd rather spend that 20-40$ on.

    I dont understand why they didn't just give us the option in game to either buy the weeding package with Gil or go to the mogstation.
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  3. #253
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Quote Originally Posted by KagatoAC View Post
    to be quite honest, I'd pay 3-4 million for the full dyeable wedding package and mount. I however will not spend 20-40$ for it. I can find a dozen RL things I'd rather spend that 20-40$ on.

    I dont understand why they didn't just give us the option in game to either buy the weeding package with Gil or go to the mogstation.
    Because they know, unlike you personally, there are plenty of people who would be willing to drop $10-$40 on an MMO's cash shop they like just like there's millions who will spend $1-$10+ on FB/Mobile in-app purchases.
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    Last edited by Tupsi; 12-12-2014 at 06:54 AM.

  4. #254
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    Flare Oskopnir
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    Quote Originally Posted by KagatoAC View Post
    I dont understand why they didn't just give us the option in game to either buy the weeding package with Gil or go to the mogstation.
    At least players would have both choices while following their own judgements about the whole ethical question, that's what Arenanet actually do with gw2, you can either bank with real money or trade ingame golds for cash-shop currencies, where it start to not be ok with GW2 is the fact that you can directly convert real money into ingame golds :x which is pay to win.......... does it sound like something familar to anyone? Meanwhile GW2 is a F2P game, FFXIV isn't.
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  5. #255
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Because they know, unlike you personally, there are plenty of people who would be willing to drop $10-$40 on an MMO's cash shop they like just like there's millions who will spend $1-$10+ on FB/Mobile in-app purchases.
    Her point wasn't don't offer it for irl cash, just additionally offer it for in-game purchase.

    Nothing about her post assumed there aren't people who are willing to drop money into a cash shop, yet your reply acts as if she implied that.

    Please check for context when replying in the future. I notice you ignore context a lot.
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  6. #256
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    Nephera Habasi
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    at least we dont have lockboxes...

    Yet.
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  7. #257
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    Sylvie Nevana
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nephera View Post
    at least we dont have lockboxes...

    Yet.
    I think this will be the defacto cash shop thread? At least now it'll all be consolidated instead in tons of different threads.
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  8. #258
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPapaSmurf View Post
    Her point wasn't don't offer it for irl cash, just additionally offer it for in-game purchase.
    If they offered it from in game means it would devalue their cash shop. It would be a bad business decision to do what KogatoAC suggested and reduce potential cash shop sales by offering an equivalent in game option while not offering any additional monetary benefit to SE.
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  9. #259
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    Nephera Habasi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazumac View Post
    If they offered it from in game means it would devalue their cash shop. It would be a bad business decision to do what KogatoAC suggested and reduce potential cash shop sales by offering an equivalent in game option while not offering any additional monetary benefit to SE.
    while ostensibly true, many games offer a free option for a lot of things that can be purchased out of the cash shop. Making it a time saved vs money saved choice for the player.


    though i have often seen this used to justify really outrageous cash shop prices while the developers tout that "you can get it for free anyway so we're going to keep charging these prices nobody will pay" in a strange tacit admission that they are exclusively whaling with their cash shop..
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  10. #260
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazumac View Post
    If they offered it from in game means it would devalue their cash shop. It would be a bad business decision to do what KogatoAC suggested and reduce potential cash shop sales by offering an equivalent in game option while not offering any additional monetary benefit to SE.
    This. SE knows people would buy it (just like they bought the other items), therefore if you personally don't want to buy it in the cash shop (as I stated) SE knows there's plenty more that will and that drove their decision. If you offer an in-game version, there's no purpose to the cash shop version. It's like offering a 90k gil/month sub with the same benefits as the standard $14 sub option and expect people to go with the $14 one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nephera View Post
    while ostensibly true, many games offer a free option for a lot of things that can be purchased out of the cash shop. Making it a time saved vs money saved choice for the player.
    While true, the free version is usually severely gimped, not as pretty or flatout lacking features/benefits. Much like in XIV's cash shop you can get a Free Eternal Bond option vs Paid options.
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