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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    It completely breaks the market dynamic, which is a huge portion of the game for a lot of players.
    Actually, it ties the in-game currency to a real world currency, which, like a gold standard, actually strengthens the market dynamic. it can lead to deflation, making what gil SE gives us worth more.

    Times where the economy has been tied to the gold standard have been some of the most stable periods in history. maybe this will stabilize the in game markets as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    Actually, it ties the in-game currency to a real world currency, which, like a gold standard, actually strengthens the market dynamic. it can lead to deflation, making what gil SE gives us worth more.

    Times where the economy has been tied to the gold standard have been some of the most stable periods in history. maybe this will stabilize the in game markets as well.
    Which is why many countries' currencies are still tied to the gold standar ... oh wait.

    Ezorea is a separate world, we play it because it's a separate world.

    What next? You got to send $€ a video of you benching 400lbs to be a good WAR?
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    Meier Michaelis
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    Quote Originally Posted by greekgeek View Post
    I don't see what the big deal is either, gil isn't gonna get you anything that will break the game. Maybe help people finish of novus or something but nothing game breaking.

    Shoot i bought 2 for 6mil gil. I had lots and I rather do that then spend 40 dollars for me and my girlfriend.
    People can buy fcob wins and gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meier View Post
    People can buy fcob wins and gear.
    The people who already had the gil before can spend the money the exact same way as the person who trades a bracelet for that same gil.

    Or, like me, can take their gil and remove it from circulation by buying a house with it. Which is my plan, and takes gil off of the market that was just going to either 1) trade hands between players, or 2) sit on someone's retainer until they had something to spend it on. Sheesh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dotsusama View Post
    The people who already had the gil before can spend the money the exact same way as the person who trades a bracelet for that same gil.

    Or, like me, can take their gil and remove it from circulation by buying a house with it. Which is my plan, and takes gil off of the market that was just going to either 1) trade hands between players, or 2) sit on someone's retainer until they had something to spend it on. Sheesh.
    While your statement is true, it does nothing to disprove pay to win.
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    On Sargatanas I have yet to see anyone buying or selling a bracelet in the PF. Ask anyone on Sargatanas they will tell you the same thing. I think you guys are blowing this way out of proportion the actual amount of people trying to make gil by selling bracelets.

    I check PF a lot never seen anyone selling one. Personally I would love to pay gil for a wedding and not real money but it doesn't happen on my server.
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    Empyreal Fate
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    On Sargatanas I have yet to see anyone buying or selling a bracelet in the PF. Ask anyone on Sargatanas they will tell you the same thing. I think you guys are blowing this way out of proportion the actual amount of people trying to make gil by selling bracelets.

    I check PF a lot never seen anyone selling one. Personally I would love to pay gil for a wedding and not real money but it doesn't happen on my server.
    It's normal. These cash-shop haters/subscription-entitlement players making a non-issue into an exaggerated issue. It is as though the game is dying and they're trying their best to resuscitate it. It's laughable because the game is very much alive and kicking. All the multiple cash-shop hate threads are just a waste of space and without a doubt, pointless.
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    Nera Mistdancer
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    Omega
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    "I told you".

    Keep saying that it's not a big deal and defending SE with your blindfolds on, and you'll see where you'll end.

    Now you can ban me again for two whole weeks for saying the truth and trying to unite people against the cash shop (while people make threads with the only purpose of provoking other players and nothing happens, even if that clearly goes against your precious rules), SE. I don't care. I'm not going to post anything else, anyway, it's not worth it. Yes, I don't care about the game anymore nor look forward to any live letter or patch, and I'm sure that I'm not the only one. That's what you have accomplished, congrats. I wish that you never ever again need the support of your core playerbase, the same ones that you seem to enjoy alienating, to stay afloat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshnal View Post
    "I told you".

    Keep saying that it's not a big deal and defending SE with your blindfolds on, and you'll see where you'll end.

    Now you can ban me again for two whole weeks for saying the truth and trying to unite people against the cash shop (while people make threads with the only purpose of provoking other players and nothing happens, even if that clearly goes against your precious rules), SE. I don't care. I'm not going to post anything else, anyway, it's not worth it. Yes, I don't care about the game anymore nor look forward to any live letter or patch, and I'm sure that I'm not the only one. That's what you have accomplished, congrats. I wish that you never ever again need the support of your core playerbase, the same ones that you seem to enjoy alienating, to stay afloat.
    "Core playerbase".

    Speak for yourself, sister. this is a positive thing, as far as I am concerned. I make stuff, it sells faster, I get more gil, I can progress faster. they pay to win, I win.
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    "Core playerbase".

    Speak for yourself, sister. this is a positive thing, as far as I am concerned. I make stuff, it sells faster, I get more gil, I can progress faster. they pay to win, I win.
    I'm not winning though. Gil that can be used to buy my stuff might have gone to these cash shop item sellers.
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