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    Quick question: how much extra dps over the long run would heavy thrust at flank be, compared to staying at rear with it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyrmurlFloerasksyn View Post
    Quick question: how much extra dps over the long run would heavy thrust at flank be, compared to staying at rear with it?
    I'm not sure what you mean, the positional requirement for Heavy Thrust has been removed now so it would do the same damage from the rear and the side as well as applying the potency buff. Did you mean Chaos Thrust?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iselore View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean, the positional requirement for Heavy Thrust has been removed now so it would do the same damage from the rear and the side as well as applying the potency buff. Did you mean Chaos Thrust?
    No i mean heavy thrust. I tested it and If you are at the flank and use heavy thrust, it does more damage. Use it at the rear, does less damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyrmurlFloerasksyn View Post
    No i mean heavy thrust. I tested it and If you are at the flank and use heavy thrust, it does more damage. Use it at the rear, does less damage.
    I hope that's intended, we'd still need to hit the positionals to maximize dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyrmurlFloerasksyn View Post
    Quick question: how much extra dps over the long run would heavy thrust at flank be, compared to staying at rear with it?
    That hurts more than staying flank full time, as you will lose about 210-230 potency per minute instead of 100. So, about 10 dps change at i110, 15 at i130, give or take.

    Also means you can just hit from wherever you want, screw all that positionning crap, sometimes they will be on the good part, sometimes not, assuming you have a 50% chance of getting it good or not (fully random), you will lose 7.5 dps or so at i110 ?

    So ignoring completely positionnals is about a 1.5% dps loss -- barely noticeable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casper View Post
    That hurts more than staying flank full time, as you will lose about 210-230 potency per minute instead of 100. So, about 10 dps change at i110, 15 at i130, give or take.

    Also means you can just hit from wherever you want, screw all that positionning crap, sometimes they will be on the good part, sometimes not, assuming you have a 50% chance of getting it good or not (fully random), you will lose 7.5 dps or so at i110 ?

    So ignoring completely positionnals is about a 1.5% dps loss -- barely noticeable.
    I see. Thank you for the help, much appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyrmurlFloerasksyn View Post
    Quick question: how much extra dps over the long run would heavy thrust at flank be, compared to staying at rear with it?
    It's 70 potency every 20 seconds. So that's a 3.5 PPS difference.

    According to EMX's worksheet, it's a loss of around 15 DPS at i135.
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