Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Daweism]

Well as a DRG, you want to have as less SS as possible so you can focus on Crit/Det so you can get more Deeps, since we have no SS buff like MNK or NIN. IMHO, it's not worth trying to have a SS cap just for Phlebo, you'll end up doing lessthan if you just focused on crit/det. But up to you, hope it works fine for you !

That SS makes you shallow, you want to be DEEP.

[Martyn]

Well as a DRG, you want to have as less SS as possible so you can focus on Crit/Det so you can get more Deeps, since we have no SS buff like MNK or NIN. IMHO, it's not worth trying to have a SS cap just for Phlebo, you'll end up doing lessthan if you just focused on crit/det. But up to you, hope it works fine for you !

Of course I would never prefer ss over det & crit and Im also playing with almost zero ss. thats why I said that 407 is out of reach. Ive just been thinking of the crafted belt and helmet having as much ss as possible (right after all other desired stats are maxed out). that would be 18 ss in the helmet and another 18 in the belt ending up with 36 extra ss you wouldnt have with ilvl 130 gear. added to the basic ss of 341 you could get 377 which is ok to have but dosnt close the gap between 2 phlebs. Well Im fine with a bit less ss then (9 in the helmet and 15 in the belt) and leave it at that.

Oh and I prefer BFB first too

[Sessurea]

A dragoon reborn!

[Hakmatic]

A dragoon reborn!

I like it. Not to much of a change but goes well with the buff dragoons just got.

[Daweism]

Just beat T12 for first time this week. How is 470 DPS + LB3 cast?

[Sleigh]

Just beat T12 for first time this week. How is 470 DPS + LB3 cast?

Depends on strat, if you have NIN, push timings, etc

I'd say it seems slightly higher than it should be unless you're AoEing Blackfires/Bennus somewhat. My group pushes last phase with only one dodge phase (which results in a tidy overall DPS increase for the group, going to guess for your first clear you had two dodge phases) and our DRG only does 460 but he doesn't do any form of AoE, has no NIN, and he's on Phoenix and the large Bennus at all times.

[Daweism]

No AoE, I stay on Phoenix the whole time, we handle our own red fires by grabbing our own BLUE and doing it ourselves, I had that twice. We had 5 Bennus, I swap between the large and small Bennus and also I'm one of the fountain soakers. Definitely had 2 dodge phases, I do have a NIN though. I'm i119 with Longinus.

In other news... did 608 DPS on T6 the other day lol. This weeks T10 kill was 500.7 DPS, no food.

[HonchoBancho]

I apologize in advance as this has probably been covered multiple times: Something I've been wondering since launch but never got to the bottom of is whether it's better to save cooldowns to be used together or to use them immediately off cooldown. Assuming no mechanics and you're just poking away at your heart's content. Is it a significant DPS difference? I've always been hesitant to use untraited IR on its own for whatever reason.

And while we're at it, IR or B4B first? The OP explains IR first to avoid the risk of B4B falling off before Full Thrust, but those days are long gone with the amount of SS we tend to have now. I got into a strange habit of B4B > x > IR just have them end at the same time. Again, totally unfounded and pure preference. I figure it's worth investigating as our numbers are getting significantly bigger.

[Daweism]

snip.

To do max DPS, always keep your Cooldowns... on Cooldown.
I do PS (as the MT is about to pull), IR+B4B (right before u get into melee), HT (right as you enter melee), LS, ID, JUMP, DE, DFD, CT, SS, PHLEB.

[EllPii]

And while we're at it, IR or B4B first? The OP explains IR first to avoid the risk of B4B falling off before Full Thrust, but those days are long gone with the amount of SS we tend to have now. I got into a strange habit of B4B > x > IR just have them end at the same time. Again, totally unfounded and pure preference. I figure it's worth investigating as our numbers are getting significantly bigger.

IR first, this is because IR will drop off after Vorpal Thrust, then you'd Life Surge the Full Thrust, otherwise it'd be a waste of a potential crit.