Possible solution for cash shop?

[FateAudax]

To which part of my post did you respond?

Its ok, we get it, you are ok with the cash shop and you don't need vanity. Period. No need to write the same thing so many times.

On the other side there are people who are not ok with the cash shop and love vanity thinking of it as a game content for which they are playing and enjoying the game.

So... this thread is about a solution so that everyone could be happy!

Can we get back on that topic?

Really? Take a look at the General Discussion thread and tell me you don't see crying and protest threads out there.
Even if SE came out with a token system like Guild Wars 2 where you can exchange said tokens for items in the cash shop.
There will still be complains like "Omg, I worked hard for my shinies but those rich brats can just buy them off cash shop. Please remove cash shop so it doesn't invalidate our hard work!!".

[Raidou]

So... this thread is about a solution so that everyone could be happy!

Can we get back on that topic?

Yes, Please. =)

I agree with the idea of introducing an in-game way to acquire cash shop items. I'm against being able to buy subscriptions with gil though. Anything where you can affect the economy with real money.

Yeah, I wasn't suggesting that with my initial post. Some have suggested it in replies. While I do think it's interesting to discuss the possibility. I think paying for subs with gil or a special currency like I suggested is an entirely different thing.

[Syrea]

Maybe so Fate but at least it'll show that SE is trying to work with is on the matter. As of right now no devs are replying to any of the many topics about the cash shop and that's what is affecting moral with FFXIV for "some" users.

[Raidou]

Really? Take a look at the General Discussion thread and tell me you don't see crying and protest threads out there.
Even if SE came out with a token system like Guild Wars 2 where you can exchange said tokens for items in the cash shop.
There will still be complains like "Omg, I worked hard for my shinies but those rich brats can just buy them off cash shop. Please remove cash shop so it doesn't invalidate our hard work!!".

It's a possible solution, like the thread title says. Offering players another choice where they currently only have one in regards to the cash shop.

I'm not trying to say my idea is the answer to all the cash shop issues. Or the cash shop threads.

[Holy-chan]

I wholeheartedly support this suggestion. It's the perfect middle ground for people that like the cash shop and people that dislike it. You have to keep in mind that no matter what you do, people will complain. I believe that among all the solutions (short of scrapping the cash shop altogether, which won't happen), this sounds like the lesser evil to me.

Additionally, it can give more incentive to make people do extra stuff they usually don't do. Challenge log entries, beast tribe quests, FATEs (okay, maybe people are getting tired of this one), etc. Whatever content that gives that special currency that's usable in the cash shop. The incentive to do content you don't usually do can go a long way to renewing enjoyment for the game, for people that normally only ever do a small handful of activities within the game.

[polyphonica]

There will still be complains like "Omg, I worked hard for my shinies but those rich brats can just buy them off cash shop. Please remove cash shop so it doesn't invalidate our hard work!!".

I have to admit, when I saw this proposal, that was my first thought too. I guess there are basically two main types of opposition to the cash shop: people who are opposed to the very idea of there being a way to spend money to get in-game items, and people who are mostly annoyed that there's no way to get the items except by paying money. I suppose you could argue, though, that it won't be possible to ever please the first group so long as the optional item shop exists at all, so at least this would address some of the concerns from the second group. I still suspect it would result in people saying that they purposefully made the in-game method burdensome so that people are tempted to pay cash and bypass the extra work.

[TurnBased]

It's up to Square to decide what to do with feedback.

People complained about long queue times and having to farm WP for tomes so we got Duty Roulette. People complained about Titan lag so they eased it. Lots of minor stuff has been addressed with QOL patches. People wanted to help their friends with Coil so we have the system that was just introduced in 2.45.

It's also up to Square to decide what isn't worth implementing. To this day, there are those who want horizontal progression and certain features from V1.0 into the game. Square has yet to respond to these complaints but that won't stop people from being vocal about it. Same thing with people against the cash shop. We'll keep complaining about it until Square listens, a compromise is reached or they unsubscribe.

If a certain group complains about a change that was done to fix a previous complaint, then that is their right to voice their concerns and it is up to Square to balance player feedback.

[Raidou]

I wholeheartedly support this suggestion. It's the perfect middle ground for people that like the cash shop and people that dislike it. You have to keep in mind that no matter what you do, people will complain. I believe that among all the solutions (short of scrapping the cash shop altogether, which won't happen), this sounds like the lesser evil to me.

Additionally, it can give more incentive to make people do extra stuff they usually don't do. Challenge log entries, beast tribe quests, FATEs (okay, maybe people are getting tired of this one), etc. Whatever content that gives that special currency that's usable in the cash shop. The incentive to do content you don't usually do can go a long way to renewing enjoyment for the game, for people that normally only ever do a small handful of activities within the game.

Yeah, I agree. It works well in other games, I think it would work in FFXIV. At the very least, it gives players another choice.

[Arkine]

The best solution for the cash shop is for SE to take it too far, everything falls on their heads,and they find themselves needing to take a step back and fix things.

Pay2Win please.

[Nalien]

I'd be so damn happy if they just made the currency for the Gold Saucer Crysta.

Play a lot of Triple Triad at the Gold Saucer in game? Have 1 Crysta! Saved up a lot of Crysta? Go to the cash shop and get some of those minions. Saved up a hell of a lot of Crystal? One free 30 day subscription!