Stoneskin II

[NoloeTazier]

Out of curiosity why didn't they just make stoneskin (I) affect multiple members when out of combat, and only the target when within? I'm for QoL changes when they can fit the game image, but I don't didn't seem necessary to make it its own spell.

Maybe someone can give a good example why you would want it separate? (Out of combat means mana cost is a bit irrelevant).

Cause it's the way the armory/class system works. Very limited.

[whoopeeragon]

Swiftsong is not meant to be used for any battle purpose which negates it's importance in this topic.

And nor is Stoneskin II.

Stoneskin is directly for battle use

Correct. Stoneskin II is not meant to be directly for battle use, but indirectly. Similar to how swiftsong enables you to get to your next set of trash mob or boss faster, Stoneskin II helps to start the fight with the boss faster.

along with sneak/hide which can also be used under certain circumstance during a fight. Please understand the game more.

Hide cannot be used. That button is DISABLED in combat. Are you daft? Show me footage of you pressing the Hide button IN COMBAT, and we can talk. Note that as soon as your tank pulls a boss, you are instantly IN COMBAT because you get aggro. You are forced out of Hide. So you cannot even try to use the argument of a initial Hide -> Trick/Sneak Attack as justification.

[KrissKringle]

Reread what you just typed. The core gameplay is completely different, an AOE stoneskin would be way too strong in the current game (ARR) it worked great in XI and 1.0 because the system allowed for such aoe abilities to exist without feeling to "OP" because of the slower paced battle systems. It seems as if you wanted something earlier than the expansion, sadly for you it won't happen. If Yoshi and the dev team gives us something in the exp, great! If the they don't whatever, i guess you just need to deal up and learn how to play WHM and utilize stoneskin efficiently rather than spamming it like an adlo.

And this is why you aren't a program designer. You lack the fundamental understand to think beyond what the developers have told you. Please, keep reiterating what they have stated to seem like you make sense. My argument is simply that it was a crappy call by the devs.

[Mandze]

We still gotta wait for skills/pot cooldowns. A good QoL thing would be to reset the cds after a wipe in raid content...

God yes, this, a thousand times. I have plenty of time to cast Stoneskin on everybody while waiting for the DPS to get their damn CDs back after every wipe while working on coil progression.

[Keisatsu]

Hide is a skill that enables more damage from other skills. Please tell me more about how you know about the game. Your argument is bunk.

Show me a screenshot of being able to use it in combat..can you? Or better yet, a video..Please? For the ignorant me? Could you please do that so I can submit to your ever so intelligent post?..I'll be waiting ^.^

[Ashkendor]

Please read the previous posts that already address this before commenting. Swiftsong is not meant to be used for any battle purpose which negates it's importance in this topic. Stoneskin is directly for battle use, along with sneak/hide which can also be used under certain circumstance during a fight. Please understand the game more.

I thought "cannot be used in combat" was pretty clear but I guess not. Regarding Swiftsong, If you can't see the strategic advantage of faster movement in battle, I'm not really sure what to tell you.

The funny part is, you're the one telling me to "understand the game more".

I for one think the addition of Stoneskin II is a great QoL improvement.

[KrissKringle]

And nor is Stoneskin II.



Correct. Stoneskin II is not meant to be directly for battle use, but indirectly. Similar to how swiftsong enables you to get to your next set of trash mob or boss faster, Stoneskin II helps to start the fight with the boss faster.



Hide cannot be used. That button is DISABLED in combat. Are you daft? Show me footage of you pressing the Hide button IN COMBAT, and we can talk.

Go to youtube and you will find plenty. I watch my partner do it all the time, because he DOES know how to play ninja.

[OneWingedSora]

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...vement/kind/1/

[Merylx]

I thought "cannot be used in combat" was pretty clear but I guess not. Regarding Swiftsong, If you can't see the strategic advantage of faster movement in battle, I'm not really sure what to tell you.

The funny part is, you're the one telling me to "understand the game more".

They're clearly trolling now. I'm amused by it all.

[Chihaya]

Please understand the game more.

LOL - trolled

And no Hide cannot be used during combat, if you have aggro on any mob or come into proximity of any boss, you cannot use hide.
As much as I also loved some aspect of 1.xx, this isn't 1.xx anymore.

Stop trying to remove a QoL spell for raiders, it serves a purpose for them.