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Thread: Stoneskin II

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    Quote Originally Posted by RegnumMagik View Post
    So are you also pissed that paladins can't raise during battle?
    Nobody is talking about Paladin. Quit trolling.
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    Also, can the location team rename it please into "Stonera-Skin"? ^^

    Quote Originally Posted by KrissKringle View Post
    An aoe version of SS already existed in the game before and it made no sense to take it out. It is a problem on the developers part for designed a spell that cannot be used during battle, it makes no sense. It's either all or nothing, we don't want useless spells. I welcome them to balance the system, that or to get rid of it entirely. The implementation of this ability is purely for lazy people.
    just don't use it and cast normal Stoneskin on every partymember before the tank start to run.
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    Last edited by Felis; 12-09-2014 at 03:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrissKringle View Post
    An aoe version of SS already existed in the game before and it made no sense to take it out. It is a problem on the developers part for designed a spell that cannot be used during battle, it makes no sense. It's either all or nothing, we don't want useless spells. I welcome them to balance the system, that or to get rid of it entirely. The implementation of this ability is purely for lazy people.
    Speak for yourself. Do you visit the forums very much? This is a spell that's been requested numerous times. You're also clearly trolling by saying this spell is for "lazy people" ... sure, adding a spell that's going to save 20 seconds is "lazy." That's a massive exaggeration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrissKringle View Post
    Nobody is talking about Paladin. Quit trolling.
    But it's a battle class? Or do you consider that as a gathering class?
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    Does anyone know the range of this spell?
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    So for ages, people complain about how boring and slow most content is and we had many of a WHM complain how painful it is to always cast Stoneskin individually, especially after each wipe. Now that we get a spell that makes the slow crawl less painful, people want that comfort removed because....why?

    Did no one watch the fan fest and saw how Yoshida reacted towards the tediousness of casting Stoneskin player by player?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keisatsu View Post
    ...This wasn't meant to be used in battle to begin with..This was only to speed up pull process and make life easier on Whm so they DO NOT have to single-cast stoneskin on everyone..Everytime you wipe..
    I am well aware of this. Do you not see the problem with it being the only ability for a main job that cannot be used by it's designated class in battle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaralnKornera View Post
    The reason they are adding it is to speed up the pulling process, nothing more.
    We still gotta wait for skills/pot cooldowns. A good QoL thing would be to reset the cds after a wipe in raid content...
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrissKringle View Post
    An aoe version of SS already existed in the game before and it made no sense to take it out. It is a problem on the developers part for designed a spell that cannot be used during battle, it makes no sense. It's either all or nothing, we don't want useless spells. I welcome them to balance the system, that or to get rid of it entirely. The implementation of this ability is purely for lazy people.
    There's nothing stopping them from possibly adding a trait in the expansion for battle use.
    But for now, it's nice to not have to stoneskin people individually or use a super slow macro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrissKringle View Post
    I play every class at 50 and have a very full understanding of how WHM works. There is no point in adding this ability except to speed up pre engagement times, which is counter intuitive to what a battle class is supposed to be. Might as well just remove it.
    You say it makes no sense but we are talking about a healer here, and this is a protective spell. It makes sense that they won't be able to channel its energy in the heat of battle due to how powerful it is; haven't you seen movies like LoTR and other fantasy books/movies? The wizards and sorcerers who use healing magic participate in battle but they heal outside the battle too.
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