Women and Armor!

[seida]

*I don't think "Sexy"(Don't think thats the right word but its whats been used) armor should be removed entirely and replaced by a new line of conservative armor that covers your body from head to toe like the Darksteel trash can armor, like some of you seem to be requesting, because that wouldn't be equality, it would be completely destroying one side(The side you don't like) so you don't get offended anymore (modern feminism, not that you guys are).

I don't think anyone wants this? To me equality means, if it's sexy on women, it should be sexy on men, too. As many have stated, men and women like to look at each other!

So why do guys get to look at female drg belly, but we don't get to look at male drg belly? It's not "artistic vision", so don't give me that. Because it's designed with straight men in mind, and that's the crux of the matter.

[BlaiseArath]

I do

Then you wouldn't have the Closed/Open for both, you'd have 1 copy for each. What I'm proposing is both copies for each. Which would be a lot of design choices.

What you're asking for, and what you seem to not understand, is to remove the mens choice for closed belly button so they are stuck with the one women have... this is as I stated, destroying the opposition rather than actual equality. I propose both choices for both genders, even if that would be quite tiring on development team.

Still, I think if every single piece of armor was gender neutral, it would be boring. I know plenty of women who like the choice too look a bit sexier in armor if they wish too. Is the DRG armor the only real argument you have, or is there other armor that you find looks good on the male version but not on the female? I personally think the exposed belly on DRG AF is stupid, it makes no logical sense, but that doesn't mean I want it removed, I'd rather an option to close it, like /visor for body.

Again, if any adjustments are made, I'd like both options available to each side, not just the petty old debate of "then make them suffer too!"

[seida]

I'm actually not proposing they change any current gear - that would be a lot of work and not worthwhile, in my opinion. I would just like to see such things implemented in future gear.

Options or different sets would be great, but again, a lot of work.

Make them suffer too? Why, you're making it sound like the sexy version is worse or something.

[BlaiseArath]

Make them suffer too? Why, you're making it sound like the sexy version is worse or something.

Nah, Also, I again mentioned I think the design is stupid regardless, and is the furthest thing from a "Sexy" version. Its just dumb. Also technically you can look at a males belly button, a good chunk of the males I know run around in the tropical banana hammock level 1 gear. One set of armor does not a misogynistic game make.

Though I digress, we clearly agree on the subject at hand.

[seida]

Nah, Also, I again mentioned I think the design is stupid regardless, and is the furthest thing from a "Sexy" version. Its just dumb. Also technically you can look at a males belly button, a good chunk of the males I know run around in the tropical banana hammock level 1 gear. One set of armor does not a misogynistic game make.

Though I digress, we clearly agree on the subject at hand.

Yes, I think we do. I'm also not trying to claim (or imply) it's a misogynistic game, far from it. It mostly does things very well. In the grand scheme of things, this is not even a topic that bothers me greatly. However, a lot of the comments/arguments here do, which is why I keep replying! (sadly).

[Felis]

I don't think anyone wants this? To me equality means, if it's sexy on women, it should be sexy on men, too. As many have stated, men and women like to look at each other!

So why do guys get to look at female drg belly, but we don't get to look at male drg belly? It's not "artistic vision", so don't give me that. Because it's designed with straight men in mind, and that's the crux of the matter.

Sexy is subjective.
What is sexy on men is not always sexy on female. What is sexy on female is not always sexy on male. What is sexy on me is not always sexy on my neighboor.

For some a belly is sexy, for other it is just a belly and not really sexy. It is just here. Also it depend if you are in a romantic mood or are stressed out.