Patch 2.45 December 9th

[Kogasan]

Only thing I don't understand is didn't se say like a couple months or so ago that no class in this game was to get any new spells abilities till the expac and then they go and give whm stoneskin 2 they should give smn Levi ramuh and Shiva egi already not to mention every other class/job should get a new ability since se has gone back on their word and given whm stoneskin 2 which is a new spell/ability for the whm

[SummonerSenah]

As a summoner main I have no problem with this. It's a QoL thing. Think of how much time will be saved in ST, raids, and primals. The whm can stoneskin eight people at once instead of eight people individually. It's a convenience, not a game changing mechanic, which is what giving summoners more summons before expac would be.

[whoopeeragon]

Only thing I don't understand is didn't se say like a couple months or so ago that no class in this game was to get any new spells abilities till the expac and then they go and give whm stoneskin 2 they should give smn Levi ramuh and Shiva egi already not to mention every other class/job should get a new ability since se has gone back on their word and given whm stoneskin 2 which is a new spell/ability for the whm

-sigh- You still don't get it, do you?

You can say the Stoneskin II is essentially a new trait, because it can only be used OUTSIDE OF COMBAT. Meaning it has absolutely ZERO effect in what matters; the actual fight. In that sense, it may as well be a wasted ability slot in fight because you can't use it at all. Tell me what new skills you will give other jobs that can only be useful outside of combat, doesn't affect anything in the current fights, and then we can have a discussion. Also, fullstops and punctuation will be nice.

[Velox]

Only thing I don't understand is didn't se say like a couple months or so ago that no class in this game was to get any new spells abilities till the expac and then they go and give whm stoneskin 2 they should give smn Levi ramuh and Shiva egi already not to mention every other class/job should get a new ability since se has gone back on their word and given whm stoneskin 2 which is a new spell/ability for the whm

They gave FSH the ability to cast a light on their fishing poles. I don't remember seeing you complaining about that QoL adjustment. What makes this any different?

WHM did not have an AoE Stoneskin before 2.45.

Well teeeechnically they did if you played FFXIV during 1.0. In fact, they had a spell that converted the next spell into an AoE form at the cost of double cast time and double MP.

[Krr]

what the heckie S-E WHM's get stoneskin II but where's my button that lets me cast huton while out of combat without spending my ninjutsu cd or having to do mudra inputs? blatant favoritism and imbalance 0/10 unsubbed uninstalled called yoshi p to let him know i want tanaka back. this would never have happened in 1.0

[Jynx]

Only thing I don't understand is didn't se say like a couple months or so ago that no class in this game was to get any new spells abilities till the expac

Restricting the game roles to a specific number of abillities is a terrible idea in the first place. Then again they have done alot of things that just work against them in the long run, the whole class/job system for example.

[Alistaire]

Watch this have a 24-second cast time.

What will be even funnier is if this is in any way less potent than the single target, and you get parties that go "no, please do the single target one on everyone before the pull" on silly stuff like titan hm in roulettes.

[LunaHoshino]

With the change of positionals for DRG and the buff to their damage, I hope the boosts come in the form of hitting the positionals from the optimal location as well as their DoTs as to encourage playing correctly.

Agreed. The positionals are what makes the class fun for me; I'd just like them to be more like MNK, where you get the boost if you hit them correctly but your DPS doesn't suffer horribly if you don't.

[Alkar]

SCH already has AoE Stoneskin. It's called Succor. WHM did not have an AoE Stoneskin before 2.45.

No, they don't. Succor is not Stoneskin: it last a few seconds, it's weaker and the best part is that they stack. There's no reason to not apply both before a pull other than pure laziness.
SCHs need this as much as WHMs.

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

Know what would be cool? Somewhere between 50-60 CNJ gets a battle SS2. Big AOE coming? Swiftcast SS2.