Thread: Patch 2.45 December 9th

Originally Posted by Eggnook24

Happy to hear DRG is finally getting buffed. Right timing too, before the Dragon oriented expansion. But jumping to conclusions about Dragoon.

Oh you and your puns. lol

Originally Posted by Riko_Futatabi

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they probably considered it, and decided against it because it would either change the meta too much, and/or they didn't want to give every class a new skill.

even if this is just a QoL adjustment in high demand, it wouldn't be surprising if a lot of people felt cheated by the fact that whm now has one more skill than every other class.

People would feel cheated and envious of WHM getting the ability I described? An ability that helps the entire party in a fight.

I'd like to hope it's not as you think, but if so those people that think this way need to grow up and break out of the "They got something so I want something!" childish attitude that probably is entwined in this community, sadly.

Originally Posted by saber_alter

they probably considered it, and decided against it because it would either change the meta too much, and/or they didn't want to give every class a new skill.

even if this is just a QoL adjustment in high demand, it wouldn't be surprising if a lot of people felt cheated by the fact that whm now has one more skill than every other class.

Rogue has 18 skills versus the other classes only having 17 base skills. /riot

Originally Posted by Riko_Futatabi

Why not make it possible to be used in battle and just quadruple the MP cost?

Assuming the MP cost of Stoneskin II is 266; quadrupling it to 1064 MP would be sufficient...

Maybe if they increased the cost by 1,000% the ability to cast 8 stone skins in 3.5 seconds in battle is ridiculously OP

Originally Posted by Riko_Futatabi

People would feel cheated and envious of WHM getting the ability I described? An ability that helps the entire party in a fight.

I'd like to hope it's not as you think, but if so those people that think this way need to grow up and break out of the "They got something so I want something!" childish attitude that probably is entwined in this community, sadly.

It's mostly in this forum, other people who actually play the game are way nicer than what we can read in most threads here.
If we had to make a global opinion on the whole FFXIV community just based by forum feedbacks, Eorzea would be >only< filled with trolls, casuals, role-players and jealousy and it's not the case, it's only because... well it's a forum real players are not like that.

Originally Posted by Riko_Futatabi

Why not make it possible to be used in battle and just quadruple the MP cost?

It's because content isn't based around the idea that WHM can use an AOE stoneskin. The ability to use an AOE Stoneskin does create the dynamic that whenever no one has stoneskin to just reapply cause why not it last 30 mins if I"m not mistaken so there is no reason to not put it in your rotation if half the party needs it reapplied.

They added it the way they did because it's meant to ease the battle prep phase for healers, rather than having to SS 8 people to provide that slight buff as the start of the fight they put it in to save time.

The other issue is this, an AOE SS if kept to work just like current SS would provide a huge huge huge huge hugeeee advantage compared to SCH's Succor which is an AOE cure + shield that only last 30 seconds.

With tank HP like 1980 a WHM SS would provide 1980 defense, if I"m not mistaken a Succor can maybe break 1k if not 850-1k.

Even with 7500 HP with an 18% shield would provide a 1350 shield for the person who has SS on them.

It's clear to see how game breaking and OP it would be to allow an AOE SS to be used during combat because it pretty much makes Succor worthless in comparison.