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  1. #131
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    Danbo05's Avatar
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    Project Ziek
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    Exodus
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ExKage View Post
    Yes it is. You can only use it out of battle. You get to stoneskin everyone in your party not have to select 7 people and individually do it. How in the world is it game changing? It's a QoL adjustment pertaining to a very specific instance. out of combat.
    Give up. He doesn't get it, and probably never will. There are just some heads that are just too thick in the world.
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  2. #132
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    Jennika's Avatar
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    Rosalynne Hawethorne
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    If you think it's such a big deal you should switch to main WHM and take advantage of such a huge boost to the job.
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  3. #133
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    Grym Shadowheart
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by atomicdeath View Post
    What I have been saying is it is battle related unlike what those other people want to insist. Im just a summoner that would also like new shineys.
    It is QoL.

    It saves you a few cast before a fight start, once a fight started, all back to normal. It doesn't make their raid heal stronger, it doesn't make the boss hit for less, it doesn't increase anyone's survivability, it doesn't do anything that you cannot already do in battle.

    With SMN equivalent, so if we give you a Levy re-skin, ALL stats and abilities will be exactly identical to Garuda, just the names of the abilities are different, will you be OK with that and accept it as a new egi?
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  4. #134
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    Ehayte's Avatar
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    Character
    Supply Demand
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    Adamantoise
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    Warrior Lv 72
    This is the equivalent to allowing you to instant-summon your pet if you are out of combat without using swift cast.
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  5. #135
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    giantslayer's Avatar
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    Colette Pascal
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    Brynhildr
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    This will save 10-20 seconds of the entire party waiting for the white mage to apply stoneskin. It benefits all players equally and does not change the overall power level of the class. It IS quality of life. Why are people complaining about this? It saves everyone time.

    Thank you SE for doing this. Don't let the complainers bother you too much.
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  6. #136
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    Dotsusama's Avatar
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    Cidriel Tausendklingen
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    Excalibur
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ehayte View Post
    This is the equivalent to allowing you to instant-summon your pet if you are out of combat without using swift cast.
    This is a really good comparison! Because while it helps you out after you die, or your pet dies and you're between fights, it doesn't actually affect the battles or strategies at all.

    That's Quality of Life.

    If it was, say, a reduction in the MP cost of summoning pets, or a reduction in cast time, or being able to instantly switch summoned pets in combat, THAT would be about balance and NOT just QoL.

    Do people see it now?
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  7. #137
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    Grym Shadowheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehayte View Post
    This is the equivalent to allowing you to instant-summon your pet if you are out of combat without using swift cast.
    OMG game breaking!
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  8. #138
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    Valia Rosa
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 71
    I just sincerely hope SCH get Stoneskin II as well. It's already hell trying to get people to stay still at the start of a dungeon for casting buffs; if WHM only get this, they will start bitching over having to wait because they got a SCH in the party instead. ><
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  9. #139
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    Titania Basilikos
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sadana View Post
    I just sincerely hope SCH get Stoneskin II as well. It's already hell trying to get people to stay still at the start of a dungeon for casting buffs; if WHM only get this, they will start bitching over having to wait because they got a SCH in the party instead. ><
    SCH already has AoE Stoneskin. It's called Succor. WHM did not have an AoE Stoneskin before 2.45.
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  10. #140
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    Ampersand Kai
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Watch this have a 24-second cast time.
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