Thread: Patch 2.45 December 9th

Originally Posted by Kogasan

Only thing I don't understand is didn't se say like a couple months or so ago that no class in this game was to get any new spells abilities till the expac and then they go and give whm stoneskin 2 they should give smn Levi ramuh and Shiva egi already not to mention every other class/job should get a new ability since se has gone back on their word and given whm stoneskin 2 which is a new spell/ability for the whm

-sigh- You still don't get it, do you?

You can say the Stoneskin II is essentially a new trait, because it can only be used OUTSIDE OF COMBAT. Meaning it has absolutely ZERO effect in what matters; the actual fight. In that sense, it may as well be a wasted ability slot in fight because you can't use it at all. Tell me what new skills you will give other jobs that can only be useful outside of combat, doesn't affect anything in the current fights, and then we can have a discussion. Also, fullstops and punctuation will be nice.

Originally Posted by Kogasan

Only thing I don't understand is didn't se say like a couple months or so ago that no class in this game was to get any new spells abilities till the expac

Restricting the game roles to a specific number of abillities is a terrible idea in the first place. Then again they have done alot of things that just work against them in the long run, the whole class/job system for example.

As a summoner main I have no problem with this. It's a QoL thing. Think of how much time will be saved in ST, raids, and primals. The whm can stoneskin eight people at once instead of eight people individually. It's a convenience, not a game changing mechanic, which is what giving summoners more summons before expac would be.

what the heckie S-E WHM's get stoneskin II but where's my button that lets me cast huton while out of combat without spending my ninjutsu cd or having to do mudra inputs? blatant favoritism and imbalance 0/10 unsubbed uninstalled called yoshi p to let him know i want tanaka back. this would never have happened in 1.0

Know what would be cool? Somewhere between 50-60 CNJ gets a battle SS2. Big AOE coming? Swiftcast SS2.

Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth

Know what would be cool? Somewhere between 50-60 CNJ gets a battle SS2. Big AOE coming? Swiftcast SS2.

Sure. But it will cost all WHM's mp, like flare.

Originally Posted by saber_alter

also we don't know if schs will be able to cross-class this.

If they can, I want a weaker, shorter stoneskin built in to medica. My favorite thing about healing with a scholar (for fun) is succor and the galvanize.

Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth

Still, I hope this means we'll be more likely to see reapplying SS before more pulls.

WHMs should already be doing this.

Originally Posted by atomicdeath

stoneskin affects the fight. time saved by doing one spell instead of 4 affects the whole run.

A seasoned healer reapplies stoneskin when the battle is nearing its end, when killing the last mob of the pull. This really wouldn't change much if a WHM does this throughout a dungeon, but will be an improvement when starting off or if they just want to do this at the end of the fight instead.

Originally Posted by Bixby

Watch this have a 24-second cast time.

Shame on you!

Originally Posted by M0xie

WHMs should already be doing this.

Not all bosses really benefit from pre-stoneskinning the whole party before the pull.

e.g. Titan EX. The first Tumult will eat through it and you will overheal anyway, so no real benefit there.

Originally Posted by CGMidlander

Not all bosses really benefit from pre-stoneskinning the whole party before the pull.

e.g. Titan EX. The first Tumult will eat through it and you will overheal anyway, so no real benefit there.

This is the most ridiculous thing I've read all day! Let them take full tumult damage and not mitigate any of it with stoneskin? You know there's more than one tumult right? I've never overhealed on this mechanic.