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  1. #491
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    Quote Originally Posted by aldoxzx View Post
    So essentially an insignificant amount of damage over any fight that takes 5 minutes+
    Well i suppose that puts a single use of a potent poison potion in the same insignificant category
    But yo dont tell that to the world class groups who drop thousands of them on cooldown during progression
    Every single point of damage matters
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZzPixie View Post
    snip
    You probably shouldn't talk for other people.

    x-potent pots are a whole different story, In a 14 minute fight that's a potential 16,000 damage - the potential gain is incomparable.

    -- It's pretty much impossible to get positioning for an opener, if you are consistently getting back demolish first then you are waiting too long to engage and actually wasted up to a whole gcd doing nothing.
    -- Getting ToD up first means increased potential uptime, over a course of a fight you could potentially have 3-4 more ticks of ToD. (or more depending on how many resets/pb uses)

    Being static for a opener is dumb, you should be adjusting depending on the situation. i.e. prioritise DK in PB when you are doing DK for another monk, when you have a another monk DKing for you ToD first allows more of your abilities to be covered by DK.
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    Last edited by enil; 12-03-2014 at 08:19 AM.

  3. #493
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    Quote Originally Posted by enil View Post
    oh?
    I never have an issue in any fight with positonal PB opener, regardless if i go with Demo snap snap Or snap snap demo. Thats just me... Idk how u play monk and how your tank pulls a boss.

    Obviously a static opener is dumb, but right now u are arguing just to argue.... I never even mentioned an opnener in any of my recent posts, this stems from tod before pb discusion.

    And about ppp.... I just meant to note the relevancy of the above stated "insignificant" damage... I said a single use of a ppp in my comparison.. Did I not?

    Like really? What are you trying to accomplish with your replies none hold any relevance to anything I have said in context.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZzPixie View Post
    .
    If you get correct positionals 100% of the time for your opener then you are spending time not dpsing (maximum uptime would be engaging the boss the same instant it's aggroed - turning and moving, if you can show me a tank that can engage without doing either I'd be mighty impressed).
    Your 22gcd calculations are incorrect because the rotations do not equalise after 22GCD (show your maths).
    A single PPP is insignificant, it's the multiple-uses that make it significant.

    If your "word" is enough proof to back up what you say is truth, then my "word" (T13 plz) is enough to say you are full of crap. (You see how this doesn't work? facts not blind faith please)
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    Quote Originally Posted by enil View Post
    If you get correct positionals 100% of the time for your opener then you are spending time not dpsing (maximum uptime would be engaging the boss the same instant it's aggroed - turning and moving, if you can show me a tank that can engage without doing either I'd be mighty impressed).
    Your 22gcd calculations are incorrect because the rotations do not equalise after 22GCD (show your maths).
    A single PPP is insignificant, it's the multiple-uses that make it significant.

    If your "word" is enough proof to back up what you say is truth, then my "word" (T13 plz) is enough to say you are full of crap. (You see how this doesn't work? facts not blind faith please)
    Oh ok what is this?
    Like really i dont care what u want to believe. I know what works best for me.
    The fact u cant hit positional 100% on boss pulls is enough for me to walk away knowing u still have a lot to learn about monk.
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  6. #496
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZzPixie View Post
    Oh ok what is this?
    Like really i dont care what u want to believe. I know what works best for me.
    The fact u cant hit positional 100% on boss pulls is enough for me to walk away knowing u still have a lot to learn about monk.
    Hey look.
    http://www.twitch.tv/xirony/c/5492801
    Almost a whole GCD late into the fight.

    http://www.twitch.tv/xirony/c/5451238
    You miss your positional on the first attack.

    This terrible monk has cleared more content than you.
    Please.
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    Last edited by enil; 12-03-2014 at 01:44 PM.

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    Lol really?
    Pretty nerdy and desperate to go find videos of me.
    Tod > pb is a dps loss except it for what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZzPixie View Post
    Lol really?
    Pretty nerdy and desperate to go find videos of me.
    Tod > pb is a dps loss except it for what it is.
    I'll take your word for it. (not)
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    Quote Originally Posted by enil View Post
    I'll take your word for it. (not)
    Dont care. I came here to give advice on opening with ToD
    All youve done is aggressed me, while i passively put the attacks aside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZzPixie View Post
    The fact u cant hit positional 100% on boss pulls is enough for me to walk away knowing u still have a lot to learn about monk.

    Pretty nerdy and desperate to go find videos of me.
    Seems pretty aggressive to up.
    You say you can 100% get opener positionals, I proved you wrong - that's about all there is to it.

    Without seeing the maths and the numbers - you could be right, but this isn't what I or the other forum-goers have an issue with. You can't be 100% sure without proof/analysis.
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