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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Hopefully you guys will appreciate these.

    Stat-Weights for 2.4/2.45 based on EMX's model:

    WD: 9.338
    STR: 1
    DET: 0.336
    CRT: 0.214
    SS: 0.206

    EDIT: Typo :P
    Any chance of seeing the maths being this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by enil View Post
    Any chance of seeing the maths being this?


    Latest weights are at the bottom. There's a lot more to it than one table, but it would be impossible to fit it all into one image for you to see it (includes the MNK's sim). EMX's spreadsheet is huuuge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    EMX's spreadsheet is huuuge.
    Derv, I know EasyMode isn't around anymore but would either of you care sharing that SS? It'd be nice not having to bug you for weights every patch and we still don't have anything concrete for NIN.
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    Very. That makes THIS our new BiS.
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    Last edited by treuhavik; 12-13-2014 at 01:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by treuhavik View Post
    Very. That makes THIS our new BiS.
    There's no way you can justify using Crafted i110 pants is better than the 11 STR difference an i130 item gives you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuloon View Post
    There's no way you can justify using Crafted i110 pants is better than the 11 STR difference an i130 item gives you.
    It's 73 Crit vs. 11 STR and 8 Det - So, yeah, crafted is better by about 3 points.

    Here's the next best if you don't want to spend a little gil; http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OUI1
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    Quote Originally Posted by treuhavik View Post
    It's 73 Crit vs. 11 STR and 8 Det - So, yeah, crafted is better by about 3 points.

    Here's the next best if you don't want to spend a little gil; http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OUI1
    Am I missing something? I just did the math myself, and it doesn't even come close...

    Arachne gearscore: 39+(41*.214)+(29*.336) = 57.518
    Augmented Ironworks Hose: 50+(23*.336) = 73.336

    There's not even a comparison...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuloon View Post
    Am I missing something? I just did the math myself, and it doesn't even come close...

    Arachne gearscore: 39+(41*.214)+(29*.336) = 57.518
    Augmented Ironworks Hose: 50+(23*.336) = 73.336

    There's not even a comparison...
    While it is not better in total and the i130 is the better of those two sets. The sets as a whole come out a lot closer than just comparing pants alone. Better to look at the whole picture.

    So the set with the crafted pants have 112.05 effective STR using the new values that Dervy posted. The full i130 set has 104.678 effect STR. However, once we add in the +377 (set with crafted) and +388 (full i130) STR along with your base racial STR on Monk the i130 set will come out on top, but not by a great deal. So as a Seeker of the Sun I'd have 754.05 effective STR with the crafted pants set and 757.678 effect STR in the i130 set.

    So 3.628 difference total. The difference isn't so huge when the whole picture is looked at. However, the crafted stuff just isn't in a lot of people's price range even if it was marginally better. If you got the money they can make for good stand-in pieces while waiting for drops though.

    Edit: I ran through that math really fast as I was leaving the office for something. So apologizes if I figured something up wrong. No time to double check right now!
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    Last edited by Ricdeau; 12-13-2014 at 04:40 AM.

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    So uh anyone found a good dye for the i130 weapon besides pure white?
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    Full DET set is only 1 point of effective strength lower and allows you to use Black Truffle instead of Flint Cavier.
    Personally I choose the DET set since black truffle risotto is much less of a hassle to obtain
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