Women and Armor!

[seida]

A lot of people here seem to be missing the point.

The vast majority of us like sexy clothes - we like the OPTION of sexy clothes.

But it is frustrating when the SAME piece of gear looks one way on a guy but is "sexified" up when on girls.

THAT is the issue.

If I see a male character wearing a cool piece of unisex gear, it's disappointing if it looks different and suddenly my boobs are out when on me.

Sexy gear = good.
Gear that is not revealing on guys but suddenly revealing on girls, NOT good.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

A lot of people here seem to be missing the point.

The vast majority of us like sexy clothes - we like the OPTION of sexy clothes.

But it is frustrating when the SAME piece of gear looks one way on a guy but is "sexified" up when on girls.

THAT is the issue.

If I see a male character wearing a cool piece of unisex gear, it's disappointing if it looks different and suddenly my boobs are out when on me.

Sexy gear = good.
Gear that is not revealing on guys but suddenly revealing on girls, NOT good.

Again, what would you suggest, then?

The only solution would be to design male and female versions of many gear sets, and this is hardly doable budget-wise.

[Adormus]

Again, what would you suggest, then?

The only solution would be to design male and female versions of many gear sets, and this is hardly doable budget-wise.

But that's exactly what they do right now. Full Plate Armour for males and Skimpy Bikinis for females. Both named "Dark Shadow Gear of Ultimate Protection".

What I would suggest: Any normal gear should be unisex. I don't mind skimpy stuff, but I'd rather refrain from using it (at least the skimpier stuff). So just add those things as vanity stuff. Problem solved.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

But that's exactly what they do right now. Full Plate Armour for males and Skimpy Bikinis for females. Both named "Dark Shadow Gear of Ultimate Protection".

What I would suggest: Any normal gear should be unisex. I don't mind skimpy stuff, but I'd rather refrain from using it (at least the skimpier stuff). So just add those things as vanity stuff. Problem solved.

That's not what I meant. What I meant is to design both versions of the same armor and let each version being equippable by both sexes. This would require A LOT of work.

Currently they design a set and adjust it automatically if it's being worn by a male or a female. Again, if you want unisex stuff look how the Noct Lorica turned out to be. No, thanks.

[Adormus]

That's not what I meant. What I meant is to design both versions of the same armor and let each version being equippable by both sexes. This would require A LOT of work.

Currently they design a set and adjust it automatically if it's being worn by a male or a female. Again, if you want unisex stuff look how the Noct Lorica turned out to be. No, thanks.

Adjusting meshes is actually not really time consuming. You're basically saying that designing two different costumes is cheaper and faster than adjusting meshes for a different body type. Which isn't logical at all. Noct Lorica is a sole example and could be easily fixed by a different texture. I'd guess they were just lazy.

Anyway: I like practical armour, which is there to defend the wearer. Even if it was too expensive to design those for females as well (which is honestly a bs argument), they could at least make them equal in defense.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

Adjusting meshes is actually not really time consuming. You're basically saying that designing two different costumes is cheaper and faster than adjusting meshes for a different body type. Which isn't logical at all. Noct Lorica is a sole example and could be easily fixed by a different texture. I'd guess they were just lazy.

Anyway: I like practical armour, which is there to defend the wearer. Even if it was too expensive to design those for females as well (which is honestly a bs argument), they could at least make them equal in defense.

Point is, what you want and like might not be necessarily what most others want and like. Most guys like seeing cute / sexy girls, and many girls like dressing in such a way. This is true both in games and real life. No amount of moralism will change this fact.

Concerning Miqo'tes which apparently are the prime offenders with their default outfit are easily explained.

Catgirls (and cat "humans" in general) are present in Japan since ancient times.
In current eastern pop culture, catgirls are often cutesy sexualized, as opposed to western culture where they are usually depicted as "catwoman styled".
Female Miqo'tes are currently one of the most played race/sex combination, both by male and female players.

Seems to me most of the players are fine with how things currently are.

[Dotsusama]

Again, what would you suggest, then?

The only solution would be to design male and female versions of many gear sets, and this is hardly doable budget-wise.

They already design two versions of every set. Only they make the female versions skimpy and show more skin, so not only is it's doable, it's been done. To death.