Dragoon buffs and Ninja nerfs coming Dec 9th in patch 2.45

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

Have I ever said otherwise?

Yes, by constantly claiming it's weaker.

Look, I'm freely granting that Tri-disaster (and Freeze, for that matter) are extremely rarely used. That's true of all binds. T7 was the only place where binding was almost necessary, but it was still useful in Garuda Hard at lower gear levels where the options were to break off from Garuda to kill plumes or die. . .or just bind them and not worry about it.

Yet another unrealistic situation. This also prevents other classes from using specific abilities or spells that would increase their DPS without releasing the feathers.

Yep, the ability to control as well as any two other classes put together isn't a stronger control.

Ninja fits in that same category. Add in the fact that there's no encounter where you need to silence more than twice a minute.

But they both CC, and the healer does it better. The tank does it better, too, but in a different way than either the healer or DPS.

Healers and DPS also both deal DPS. But the DPS deal more damage. With that logic anyway.

Q: Why are tanks usually on stun duty?

A: Because they're better at stunning than the DPS are.

No, The proper answer would be because a tank is always present while another class with an instant stun ability is not always present

Q: Why does the DRG have zero CC contribution to the group?

A: Because the tank does it better.

Q: Why is the DRG doing so little DPS?

A: Because it can't use two of its best abilities without getting in the tank's way. (joke answer: because it's eating dirt)

And this started as Ninja having "inferior" CC. At least you're admitting Ninja's not suffering from any of this like other melee classes are

And yep, BRD can bind a single target on a 40 second CD. Sure, it works better than Tri-disaster in T7, even though neither of them were really needed. But if you need to bind more than one target or more often than every 40 seconds, BRD loses to SMN and BLM (and potentially NIN).

You don't even seem to understand why a Bard's shadowbind works better than a Summoner's, or a black mage's, bind version.

And yes, I keep forgetting BLM. Similar binding ability to SMN, similar heavy ability. . .oh, and a 30s duration AOE sleep that blows most other CC out of the water.

More obsolete CC being brought to the table

After you dragged in tanks to what used to be a DPS vs DPS comparison.

I brought Paladins into the discussion because:

What? No. The day a NIN can solo-silence T2, or solo-stun Ifrit or Levi's add, or solo-bind feathers on Garuda, then I'll believe that it has comparable CC to other classes.

You pointed at it in the first place

And it's nice to see that seven seconds of AOE stuns has no importance. Tell that to the people wiping in Bray.

Actually, yes, AoE stun has no importance. Because scholars can speed run casual content as well