Dragoon buffs and Ninja nerfs coming Dec 9th in patch 2.45

[Viridiana]

Ninja silence and stun work the same as any other CC ability: It stuns and the target builds up resistance. Silence only silences for a brief moment like any other silence. it's just as effective as any other ability. It's not like Ninja stun gets resisted after two appliances or that Ninja Silence can fail to silence.

Have I ever said otherwise?

Yet another unrealistic as well as too rare of an occasion of "AoE" bind being effective. Tri-disaster AoE range is 5 yalm. The only case where the targets are small enough to be within 5 yalm range and can be bound is in Garuda HM and it's not even necessary. Turn 7 used to be the only encounter where binding would be important. Now that it's been nerfed to the ground, binding is as useless as ever.

Look, I'm freely granting that Tri-disaster (and Freeze, for that matter) are extremely rarely used. That's true of all binds. T7 was the only place where binding was almost necessary, but it was still useful in Garuda Hard at lower gear levels where the options were to break off from Garuda to kill plumes or die. . .or just bind them and not worry about it.

Can be done every 6 seconds? Perhaps, but for the remaining window within those 6 seconds they can't freely silence. I still won't call it stronger CC. More frequent, perhaps. But you even pointed out all the down sides yourself of this fact.

Yep, the ability to control as well as any two other classes put together isn't a stronger control.

And again, you're bringing in a healer that does a role a ninja is not.

But they both CC, and the healer does it better. The tank does it better, too, but in a different way than either the healer or DPS.

You're contradicting yourself on so many fronts here...
"Dragoon has limited options but better CC skills". Stun gets resisted by overuse and will no longer be a reliable CC ability. If not used at all, this is a major DPS loss - Which, I will repeat again, is never an issue for Ninja's. Add in the fact that tanks are usually on stun duty, this would mean dragoon has zero contribution for crowd control. Which wouldn't even make it middle of "DPS tier" as you refered.
"Bard has weaker CC than NIN". It's interesting how hellbend you are about Summoner being able to bind, but completely ignore the fact Bards can bind as well. Fact: Bard's Shadowbind was unconditionally better than Summoner's tri-disaster for Turn 7. Oh it's not an AoE? You forgot to mention Black Mage here.

Q: Why are tanks usually on stun duty?

A: Because they're better at stunning than the DPS are.

Q: Why does the DRG have zero CC contribution to the group?

A: Because the tank does it better.

Q: Why is the DRG doing so little DPS?

A: Because it can't use two of its best abilities without getting in the tank's way. (joke answer: because it's eating dirt)

Or, y'know, you could actually let the DRG do some of the stunning. It's not like the tank *has to* be the one stunning Ifrit or the add on Levi.

And yep, BRD can bind a single target on a 40 second CD. Sure, it works better than Tri-disaster in T7, even though neither of them were really needed. But if you need to bind more than one target or more often than every 40 seconds, BRD loses to SMN and BLM (and potentially NIN).

And yes, I keep forgetting BLM. Similar binding ability to SMN, similar heavy ability. . .oh, and a 30s duration AOE sleep that blows most other CC out of the water.

And again you're dragging healers into a discussion where it began as DPS vs DPS comparison. There's also misinformation here, but I won't go into this because it's not even relevant to the topic. It also concerns casual content where CC has nearly no importance.

After you dragged in tanks to what used to be a DPS vs DPS comparison. And it's nice to see that seven seconds of AOE stuns has no importance. Tell that to the people wiping in Bray.