Women and Armor!

[Remilia_Nightfall]

I've played the game long enough to remember when all the gear was equal for both genders.

Then they added the coatee set: Formal suit and pants for man, miniskirt with stockings and epic cleavage for woman.
Then they added the AFs: WHM: Men get bagy shorts, women get a mini-skirt that changes to panties depending on what you wear, DRG AF has the inexplicable belly window.
Then with 2.0 they relesed the mini-skirt starter RSE.
They've since added Ninja AF with the cleavage for women.

I was a bit disappointed with the coatee set and have become a bit more disappointed with each subsequent addition.

I suppose I was just spoiled coming from XI where there was a lot of the less "ooh, we can make these girls look slutty *giggle*" attitude that's common with other developers. I expected a bit more maturity, I guess.

Emphasizing femininity is perfectly fine. Females of all ages do that in real life as well, so what's the issue?

[Cherry_Phox]

I think we can all agree on one thing.

We do not care if the attire is sexy or not. We only wish for the option to place it on all sexes and races.

Good luck Character assets team. Hop to it.

[Gilraen]

I suppose I was just spoiled coming from XI where there was a lot of the less "ooh, we can make these girls look slutty *giggle*" attitude that's common with other developers. I expected a bit more maturity, I guess.

While the RSE and the Highlander smallclothes are admittedly showy, 'slutty' isn't something this game says. Not at all. You want that, there's games that make this one look like it's run like Catholic Boarding House. In a previous post of mine I mentioned the Conan MMO, where women not only had 'stereotypical' armor but also pornstar proportions. Several Korean MMOS are especially guilty of this only following the anime porn angle. Heck, there's one where you can buy the option to be just plain old naked, no smallclothes at all!

[Aegis]

Emphasizing femininity is perfectly fine. Females of all ages do that in real life as well, so what's the issue?

TIL Panty Shots are 'emphasizing femininity' not 'borderline creepy'

While the RSE and the Highlander smallclothes are admittedly showy, 'slutty' isn't something this game says. Not at all. You want that, there's games that make this one look like it's run like Catholic Boarding House.

This game originally had a much more gritty, practical aesthetic (Avoiding the word 'realistic' because we ride chocobos and fight gods). My issue is not solely about the gender dimorphism it's also the other things that we lost when we ditched that aesthetic: goodbye realistic weapons and practical armour, hello glowy axes of doom larger than my character's torso and shoulderpads of epicness.

In a previous post of mine I mentioned the Conan MMO, where women not only had 'stereotypical' armor but also pornstar proportions. Several Korean MMOS are especially guilty of this only following the anime porn angle. Heck, there's one where you can buy the option to be just plain old naked, no smallclothes at all!

Damning with faint praise. I'd hope we set ourselves to a higher standard than that.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

TIL Panty Shots are 'emphasizing femininity' not 'borderline creepy'

Precisely. Panty shot are cute. Especially if they are striped ones.

[Magis]

Some slut shaming going on in this thread.

Talking to my sister who's taking sociology, her bigger beef is how all the characters are basically "perfect", which spreads a false image of what "normal" is. However I argue that the point of an MMO is escapism, to be something you are not (as most games are).

[Remilia_Nightfall]

Some slut shaming going on in this thread.

Talking to my sister who's taking sociology, her bigger beef is how all the characters are basically "perfect", which spreads a false image of what "normal" is. However I argue that the point of an MMO is escapism, to be something you are not (as most games are).

Really.

Going by this logic, I guess we should believe that catgirls, lalafells and roegadyns are "normal", and we should all strive to resemble them in real life.

Well, I would not mind meeting some female Miqo'tes, but in general I believe that any sane person has a clear idea about what's real and what's not.

[Aegis]

Some slut shaming going on in this thread.

I wouldn't say so. It seems to me the gist of the complaints is not that people are wearing this armour, but that the armours in question appears to be designed by a puerile, juvenile designer who feels that it is not sufficient that armour traded between two characters should remain generally the same, but that it should change depending on gender.

I don't see why I can craft a nice evening suit set for myself, craft the exact same recipe and, when given to a female friend, it becomes a mini-skirt, stockings and about an acre of cleavage other than because some designer thinks women should be showing displaying their boobs and thighs at all times.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

I wouldn't say so. It seems to me the gist of the complaints is not that people are wearing this armour, but that the armours in question appears to be designed by a puerile, juvenile designer who feels that it is not sufficient that armour traded between two characters should remain generally the same, but that it should change depending on gender.

They did that with the Noct Lorica. Result? Cute girls with abs.



People complained (and rightly so).

Style is important, in a FF game.

[DawgPilez]

New armor for all characters, that doesn't objectify anyone and still offers complete protection!

I just heard that all aestheticians dropped cosmetology courses and took up Blacksmithing.