Remove both marriage plans.

[Abriael]

Everquest 1 and 2, FFXI, WoW for... 7 years?, EVE (PLEX maybe, but even that is regulated through the market itself) would say otherwise. If SE can't afford to keep their dev and servers up (which is BS since Yoshi himself said they only need 500k+ players to keep it alive) then they should raise the sub rate, not gate content behind a paywall. MMOs were able to operate no problem without a cash shop before. Stop making up excuses for SE, a multi-million dollar corporation isn't "your friend".

Interesting you'd name WoW, considering that it has a cash shop, selling mounts and more, exactly like Final Fantasy XIV.

Thanks for proving yourself wrong.

[Magis]

Interesting you'd name WoW, considering that it has a cash shop, selling mounts and more, exactly like Final Fantasy XIV.

Thanks for proving yourself wrong.

Everquest 1 and 2, FFXI, WoW for... 7 years?, EVE (PLEX maybe, but even that is regulated through the market itself) would say otherwise. If SE can't afford to keep their dev and servers up (which is BS since Yoshi himself said they only need 500k+ players to keep it alive) then they should raise the sub rate, not gate content behind a paywall. MMOs were able to operate no problem without a cash shop before. Stop making up excuses for SE, a multi-million dollar corporation isn't "your friend".

WoW is the exception to the rule when it comes to MMOs. Take all the ones that did copy WoW and look what happened to them? OH yeah, dead F2P stacks of garbage. And the question was "MMOs NEED a cash shop to survive", which off all examples I gave, WoW is the biggest example of that.

[whoopeeragon]

"MMOs NEED a cash shop to survive"

"Required to survive" and "extra revenue" are two very different things.

I'm staying out of the main argument here regarding Eternal Bond though.

[Abriael]

WoW is the exception to the rule when it comes to MMOs.

Quality discourse aside, considering its success, WoW is THE Pay to Play MMORPG. As a matter of fact, it's the only one, besides Final Fantasy XIV and EVE online, that can be considered successful. It's hardly an "exception"

Oh, and by the way, EVE online has a cash shop as well, and not just for PLEX. It sells ship skins, vanity clothes and a lot more. Would you care to retract your ill-advised statements?

[DefendPopPunk]

Quality discourse aside, considering its success, WoW is THE Pay to Play MMORPG. As a matter of fact, it's the only one, besides Final Fantasy XIV and EVE online, that can be considered successful. It's hardly an "exception"

What the. That's the very definition of "exception."