Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
Actually these things make it a good if not great fitting tank. All the others an also fit a tank role (WAR has damage/defense reduction debuffs, can output huge damages, etc... so the "dps" bit isn't really THAT convincing). Also, armor IS defining your role. At least in FFxiv. Heavy ? tank. Chainmail and leather, physical DPS. Cloth => mages. And "historically" isn't FFxi. DRK always had above average to good tankyness on top of their damage. What you're trying to say is like saying RDM is a dps because he does that, forgetting the white magic part of its job.



all FF iterations had greatswords to tanks. Knights, Paladins, Rune knights, special jobs for FFT, and DRK, were all super tanky jobs. It doesn't matter how high their damages were, they were tanks. not dps.
Completely wrong.

Anything tanking with those traits alone is barely better than a pure DPS with a bit of defence, actually, a healer would be tankier than that description and we know a tank has to be tankier than a healer, so no. Armor doesn`t define roles, this is the most important part of it all. In any game, your armor is there to support your role, yes, but not to limit you to it. An archer can wear heavier armor, and no, it wont become a tank.

All DRK through FF history have been DPS/Debuffers. In no way most of them have been tanks. Saying that FFT DRK for example was a good tank is simply put not having played the game or not dig deep enough on it to reach/build the true tanks. DRK actually don`t even fit any of the "roles" of FFXIV if we base ourselves on what DRK have been through the history of FFs, we shoud have a "Support role" and put the DRK as a debuffer with DPS inclinations. Anyway, DRK is far closer to a DPS class than a tank through the FF history, which for the DRK starts in FFII and surprise, amazing spear DPS and black magic caster and this is something is mostly respected through the series but some weird exceptions as Cecil, which is still good at DPS, in fact, Darkness was an HP trade per damage and in the remake is a strenght HP trade buff... In western role games, a FF DRK would be a heavy armored swordspell or battlemage. And the HP trades are closer to blood sacrifices typical of Berserker classes... DRK screams DPS as a concept.
Heavy armor and an average defense with HP absorb is not good enough for a Tank,