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  1. #31
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    Sylve's Avatar
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arasiel View Post
    I completely agree the game could use another tank. But why take the class that is the opposite of a Paladin. A class that focuses on utter destruction with dark soul rending magic to be the guy who takes hits and protects party members.. It doesn't much make sense to me. I think if you wanted a tank that bad you should have make it so Dark Knight can be either a tank or DPS.
    I'll justify Dark Knight Tanks the same way I justify Warrior Tanks.
    Nothing to do with keeping my party members safe, I'm just the scariest most dangerous looking mofo on the battlefield, I'm not drawing your enmity because i like the people behind me, I draw your ire because I'm presently ripping your soul apart.
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    Kaedrian Kaeng
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arasiel View Post
    I completely agree the game could use another tank. But why take the class that is the opposite of a Paladin. A class that focuses on utter destruction with dark soul rending magic to be the guy who takes hits and protects party members.. It doesn't much make sense to me. I think if you wanted a tank that bad you should have make it so Dark Knight can be either a tank or DPS.
    They are not the complete opposite of a "Paladin." In the case they truly were the complete opposite, they would also wear cloth armor. This is not the case. Any "Knight" class are expected to be defenders of their allies, whether its by holy conviction or sinister in origin. Yes, even evil need tanks.

    Yeah DRK was a dps for the most part in XI, but thats simply the way most players played DRK. This is an opportunity for a game changer, to make more players interested in playing a Tank class.
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  3. #33
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    Hayley Westenra
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    Quote Originally Posted by RegnumMagik View Post
    Why is my black mage not a healer, that's racist.
    It is if you equip Physick.
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Didn't FFX-2 have Dark Knight as a tank-ish type class? (Sky high HP, Attack, and Defense)
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  5. #35
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    Zyla Tominaga
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaedrianLiang View Post
    They are not the complete opposite of a "Paladin." In the case they truly were the complete opposite, they would also wear cloth armor. This is not the case. Any "Knight" class are expected to be defenders of their allies, whether its by holy conviction or sinister in origin. Yes, even evil need tanks.

    Yeah DRK was a dps for the most part in XI, but thats simply the way most players played DRK. This is an opportunity for a game changer, to make more players interested in playing a Tank class.
    pretty much this. just cause it was a dps in one game doesn't mean that is the only role it will ever fulfill. and actually it wasn't a huge undertaking to tank on drk in some of the lower to mid lvls on ffxi, with the right gear and /war it wasn't really that hard to tank on drk, just not conventional.
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  6. #36
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    Final Fantasy 6, Cecil was a Tank. He was a Dark Knight that turn into a Paladin later in the game. So it still make sense Dark Knight is a Tank. Sure they are DPS in FFXI, but they were met to be Tank class until the community turn Ninja into a Tank class, so they don't want to released another Tank class and make Dark Knight a DPS.
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  7. #37
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janhyua View Post
    Paladin: I try so hard~~
    Paladin: I wasted it all just to watch you go~~
    Paladin: Watch it count down to the end of the day~~~

    Rawrrrrrrrrrrrr@$&@$&)&(

    ALL HELL break lose

    Dark knight: DARK SOUL~~~~~~~ "flips table left and right" throws table at camera man
    I'm pretty sure the DRK storyline will be along the lines of you sacrificing something for power. Heh, maybe a sword of darkness that marks your soul and ties it to the void or something.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
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    I like the idea of it being a Tank, at least for a little while, there shouldn't be a shortage of tanks
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marisela View Post
    Final Fantasy 6, Cecil was a Tank. He was a Dark Knight that turn into a Paladin later in the game. So it still make sense Dark Knight is a Tank. Sure they are DPS in FFXI, but they were met to be Tank class until the community turn Ninja into a Tank class, so they don't want to released another Tank class and make Dark Knight a DPS.
    Err... you mean FFV. Also Cecil wasn't exactly a 'tank', as he still had darkness attacks which sacrificed HP to deal extra damage.
    Somehow sacrificing HP doesn't exactly scream 'tank for me'.

    Of course, they could just remove that unique trait... but then it would be Dark Knight in name only. In EVERY iteration of Dark Knight, they've sacrificed HP to deal bonus damage. So... how exactly are they not a DPS?
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    Last edited by Lemuria; 11-29-2014 at 04:50 PM.

  10. #40
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    Alexander Dragonfang
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marisela View Post
    Final Fantasy 6, Cecil was a Tank. He was a Dark Knight that turn into a Paladin later in the game. So it still make sense Dark Knight is a Tank. Sure they are DPS in FFXI, but they were met to be Tank class until the community turn Ninja into a Tank class, so they don't want to released another Tank class and make Dark Knight a DPS.
    By that logic, Kain was also a tank (actually properly geared even more tanky than Cecil itself) so Dragoons should also be tanks.

    Now, through the versions of all FF, DRK have been resistant HP absorb DPS classes, with a defence mainly from using heavy armor but not much more than that, on the other hand, they usually carry black magic, defense ignoring attacks, HP sacrifice high damage attacks, HP drains, several debuffs (basically defense and resistance reductions) all things you expect to see in a DPS/Debuffer class. Armor doesn`t determine the role of a class. So "historically" DRK have been always closer to what DPS is than a tank.

    BUT, each FFXIV is unique and devs can make anything of anything if they want.

    Now, if the DRK is going to be a hell knight clone of L2, ok, but i swear, nothing screams DPS more than a knight sword (what greatswords of dark and holy knights are called) def-bypassing damage skills like Darkness or HP sacrifice skills that augments strenght or straight make tons of damage... But hey, make him a tank, he is only missing a black coeurl.
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