So Second Coil has been destroyed

[ruskie]

I have yet to clear t8 and t9 though did get to like 45%/47% in both. While I can appreciate the nerfs for new players I would also like to have a simple checkbox:
[ ] without nerfs

That when clicked would still provide the echo(that can be clicked away) and the original unnerfed fight. I mean the fight is technically there so would just need to pick set of abilities 1 vs set of abilities 2 for the instance before you start it. That would give people the chance to always experience the original while at the same time giving everyone who does not wish to to just enojy the nerfed one.

I have recently seen a PF on the server where the person was looking for people to run T1 as it was originally meant with the minimal gear and no echo and doing the mechanics. I wonder how that went but I hope they got their wish.

[Atomnium]

Came on the forums expecting QQ over nerfs, was not disappointed, seriously the only ones complaining about it have ALREADY beaten 2nd Coil into the damn ground so why does it matter to you... oh wait, don't want them filthy scrub casuals getting nice loot too huh?

Sorry man, it's not the case we actually don't give a single s**t about "filthy scrub casuals" like you said :x we re just sad to see our countless hours of raid training, late nights, despair moments getting tossed into the trash pile.

Also, I have many cons but jealousy isn't one of them and I hope this major nerf on scob will motivate more "filthy scrub casuals" to step into fcob to claim the real prize of the whole CoB : fcob cutscenes

[Rieze_Xeero]

Nerf will happen eventually

[SpookyGhost]

Sorry man, it's not the case we actually don't give a single s**t about "filthy scrub casuals" like you said :x we re just sad to see our countless hours of raid training, late nights, despair moments getting tossed into the trash pile.

You beat the turns before the nerf, and are able to progress in FCoB significantly earlier than most. Your time wasn't wasted, you got a lot out of it - if it wasn't fun when you did it and worth the experience alone, what's the point in raiding at all?

[Kiara1]

blip

That is a part of the challenge too, to get a good group. I mean according to the ppl in this thread T6-8 will be DF friendly now. But other content like Titan Ex is impossible in DF, even getting to heart phase is hard in DF.
And I really like that. It feels more rewarding when you finally beat it.

[Alukah]

I dont like how previous content is getting nerfed. Why do ppl need to be at the latest raids the day the patch is released? Coil 1&2 is still new to new people so no need to nerf it yet imo. Nerf them when the expansion is released instead.

You are not alone with that sentiment, but MMO history disagrees with it, most people do want to try out the new content and not be gated behind old fights (even if it's new for them) specially if those old fights aren't very rewarding in a (sort of) extreme vertical progression game like this, where the best gear comes from the newest content and it greatly outclasses the older gear.

This is how streamlined MMOs heavily dependent on vertical progression work and this won't change even with the expansion, that's the direction this game will keep.

[Yahavage]

Sorry man, it's not the case we actually don't give a single s**t about "filthy scrub casuals" like you said :x we re just sad to see our countless hours of raid training, late nights, despair moments getting tossed into the trash pile.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...

[Kerrigen]

It's a shame that they didn't just add a story mode version of SCoB, rather than alter the normal version of the raid. With SCoB's current implementation future players cannot use SCoB as practise grounds anymore for FCoB.

I agree, this is very unfortunate and I would add they should have gone with multiple modes from the get-go (which also would have adressed the lack of significant content the game suffers from), I really hope they change this for Heavensward.

[Ophie-Mio]

Came on the forums expecting QQ over nerfs, was not disappointed, seriously the only ones complaining about it have ALREADY beaten 2nd Coil into the damn ground so why does it matter to you... oh wait, don't want them filthy scrub casuals getting nice loot too huh?

I haven't beaten Second Coil yet and I'm complaining. Nice loot should be given when effort is done. My group did a test-T6 in DF and it was just face rolled despite the many mistakes and it was disgusting and unsatisfying. No debuff/no real effort. Echo should have been enough...

I prefer the effort of a good fight and the happiness of clearing it. There's no pride in Second coil now.

[Rose-Wild]

What's the point with this? They made coil easier than dungeons... They could had made a story mode coil and leave this one alone :/

This is so pointless because it wont get them ready for t9 or final coil.