So Second Coil has been destroyed

[Kiara1]

I havent tried T5 yet but when I decide I wanna beat it and start next set of coil Id rather wipe at the original fights and not a nerfed version of them tbh.
I feel like if you cant beat something you should learn the fight better, or get higher ilvl (and echo at 10% is fine imo)

I dont like how previous content is getting nerfed. Why do ppl need to be at the latest raids the day the patch is released? Coil 1&2 is still new to new people so no need to nerf it yet imo. Nerf them when the expansion is released instead.

[Garlyle]

I havent tried T5 yet but when I decide I wanna beat it and start next set of coil Id rather wipe at the original fights and not a nerfed version of them tbh.
I feel like if you cant beat something you should learn the fight better, or get higher ilvl (and echo at 10% is fine imo)

It's really important to note, unlike the First Coil of Bahamut, a lot of Turn 6-9's difficulty came from mechanics that straight up instant killed you. Meeting the actual HP/healing/damage checks wasn't necessarily easy, but those weren't the main threats - the main threats were things like having your entire party petrified because someone couldn't LoS properly, and then watching your team get one-shot one by one.

A few iLvl and a 5/10% echo would not fix that, it'd just make certain alternate strats to get things done quicker (eg burn strat Turn 6, single tanking Turn 8) more commonplace. For echo to actually make a difference, the power of the mechanics themselves had to change.

[Alukah]

I dont like how previous content is getting nerfed. Why do ppl need to be at the latest raids the day the patch is released? Coil 1&2 is still new to new people so no need to nerf it yet imo. Nerf them when the expansion is released instead.

You are not alone with that sentiment, but MMO history disagrees with it, most people do want to try out the new content and not be gated behind old fights (even if it's new for them) specially if those old fights aren't very rewarding in a (sort of) extreme vertical progression game like this, where the best gear comes from the newest content and it greatly outclasses the older gear.

This is how streamlined MMOs heavily dependent on vertical progression work and this won't change even with the expansion, that's the direction this game will keep.