BLM nerfs much over the top?

[Stormrider]

I am not sure how many matches you have done. BLMs and WHMs bot suffered nerfing from class stacking. You ever see 6 BLMs swiftcast nuke another party. Literally 6 of them can kill 8 other players in less then 60 seconds.

[Deelo]

I am not sure how many matches you have done. BLMs and WHMs bot suffered nerfing from class stacking. You ever see 6 BLMs swiftcast nuke another party. Literally 6 of them can kill 8 other players in less then 60 seconds.

That's the point. He wants the CC to be long and dumb so he can be overpowered again. I had a lot to say, but there's just no point anymore. These threads will just keep popping up. The biggest problem SE has: not having an "Unlike" button on these forums.

[Tonkra]

That's the point. He wants the CC to be long and dumb so he can be overpowered again. I had a lot to say, but there's just no point anymore. These threads will just keep popping up. The biggest problem SE has: not having an "Unlike" button on these forums.

since when a black mage is overpowered in pvp?!! are you insane or somethin?! have you ever played one in pvp or in wolves den?!!?

seems not like it..

and he wasnt overpowered with instant flare, too.. because after swiftcast he is so easy to disturb/interrupted.. ALL the time..
And there are MANY skills against sleep, too.. Purify is just one skill. e.g. DRGs etc. have skills to get immunity against sleep for a certain time..

so right its quiet overpowered.. having a 15 s sleep.. which gets 70% of the time purified for the first time... and after that a overpowered duration of around 8s-10s sleep.. that gives you just time to run 10 y away and start casting.. wow.. blm is soo overpowered..

he needed to be nerfed.. NOT.. blm is one of the HARDEST jobs to play in pvp.. its not like bard who can shoot instant arrows on range.. and inflicting "heavy" on the target for ~20 seconds.. EVERY other jobs can spam their instant skills and thats about it.. blm can not..

while my instant heavy effect (slow) has just a duration of 8 s...


BLM is more vulnurable than any bard is..

blm is the most difficult and gimped class in pvp.. its not enough that he has a pvp skill where he is unruptable for 10-15 s.... every 240seconds(!)
so that means for the rest of the time in 1vs1 he is completely fucked up against any other class.. summoner, brd, tank, melee dd...
ending up spamming scathe..

so right... swiftcast needed a nerf... for 50%.. A 25% nerf wouldnt have been enough.. it had to be 50% to make swiftcast flare completely senseless. flare drains all of your MP also with having in mind that swiftcast flare does as much damage as you do with a regular fire spell, it should be obvious how senseless that skill had become in pvp.


BLM is the most unbalanced job in PVP... (and not in the good way) and many skills of blm are getting more and more useless. flare for 90%


im okay if they "nerf" classes.. but sometimes they completely overdrive it.. nerfing it to the ground.
and it isnt like it that BLM was ever overpowered pvp.. ESPECIALLY in Arena PVP... I dont ever think that BLM needed a nerf ever.. he is fucked up with his interruptable skills already.


what i mean:

75% damage instead of just 50% damage for swift cast would have been fine...

[Deelo]

since when a black mage is overpowered in pvp?!! are you insane or somethin?! have you ever played one in pvp or in wolves den?!!?

seems not like it..

Try reading more carefully. I mentioned BLMs being overpowered in the past, not right now. Yes, I did play *a lot* of Wolves Den when it was introduced and I'm sure EVERY person back then would agree Black Mage was overpowered. Sleep was auto-win in Wolves Den. Your whine-post makes it seem like you want things to be like that again. Black Mage is just fine now and can be pretty deadly when played correctly. There's a reason why casters are high priority targets.

[Archchancellor]

he needed to be nerfed.. NOT.. blm is one of the HARDEST jobs to play in pvp.. its not like bard who can shoot instant arrows on range.. and inflicting "heavy" on the target for ~20 seconds.. EVERY other jobs can spam their instant skills and thats about it.. blm can not..

No no no. Us BRDs can not inflict heavy on you, unless you are on mount when you get hit. We do have a skill Heavy Shot, But it dose not inflict heavy. We do have a cross skill that can be used to inflict slow but not heavy.

[Vorpal_Spork]

The biggest problem SE has: not having an "Unlike" button on these forums.

Agreed. Likes are basically meaningless without dislikes. Hitler probably sounds like a great guy if you only ask nazis. You have to ask both sides to get an accurate view of how good something is.

[PotatoTree]

Dont forget the Scathe nerf too.

I am not sure how many matches you have done. BLMs and WHMs bot suffered nerfing from class stacking. You ever see 6 BLMs swiftcast nuke another party. Literally 6 of them can kill 8 other players in less then 60 seconds.

The only reason this was ever an issue was that people were bad and didn't know how to split one person to each BLM so that they can't cast. Plus, after 6 flares they are wet noodles.

It's just not fun playing BLM in frontlines anymore. They lost their omph, and there's absolutely no reason to bring one to a party over SMN. If you need the CC that badly to win then you're party doesn't have good enough healers anyway. And what's with the heavy handed balancing anyway? The right way to do it would be to slowly reduce the impact of balancing as the games normalize. Ie: start with radical changes, end up with small 5% tweaks. A straight up 50% nerf to a core ability? WTF god tier BLM do they have over in Japan?

I think Yoshi's LA fanfest where he started taking off his BLM cosplay was a metaphor for what they were doing to BLMs.

You might as well give up on the class for PvP, you wont see any changes with like 9 other jobs dancing over your grave.

[Asierid]

I think Yoshi's LA fanfest where he started taking off his BLM cosplay was a metaphor for what they were doing to BLMs.

Good thing I have this cup full of straws nearby, something to actually grab onto...