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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    ... It's completely 100% off topic. It's a distraction from even your own argument, and from the OPs original meaning for this thread.....
    You have a clear seller devil's advocate to thank for derailing this. See this is where is started:

    Quote Originally Posted by Prototype909 View Post
    Selling runs....
    BTW the clear sellers are not 100% unrelated. They are just a tiny but clear visible piece of a large iceberg. The fact remains that I see learning PF go unfilled for extended time while clear sellers on the PF at the same time, along with gil seller tell spams and friend requests. There is more than just coincidence going on here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    BTW the clear sellers are not 100% unrelated. They are just a tiny but clear visible piece of a large iceberg.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Those clear sellers don't prevent anyone from working on the turns. They don't stop anyone from grabbing friends, queuing up, and working on it until they get a win. If you want to down T5 so bad then people should spent less time fuming about clear sellers and more time in T5 working on it. There are not enough people in the game for clear sellers to prohibit you from completing this content.*
    Those people selling clears are such a small amount of the total player population that it's a horrific scapegoat to blame them for the lack of progress. Period. This, is a red herring. It would seem relevant but the realistic effect on the community in terms of preventing T5 wins is minuscule to non-existent and is a distraction from the point.

    Make your own thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    You have a clear seller devil's advocate to thank for derailing this. See this is where is started:
    Apparently the words 'clear selling' appearing anywhere in a thread are the bat signal and demand complete derailment to show us the evils around us lest we fall prey to the dark sins of the clear RMT ring. Thank you for saving us all from being hypnotized into RMT because 1 post outta 14 pages mentioned those 2 words.

    As for the op, the only thing you can do is try to be respectful with the message. Some people cannot accept any form of criticism no matter how it is presented and that is on them. But it is on you to deliver the message in as tasteful and respectfully a manner as is reasonable. After that balls in their court. Don't stress to much about it. We can't prevent everyone from ever being offended. Only try to minimize it through presentation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aana View Post
    As for the op, the only thing you can do is try to be respectful with the message. Some people cannot accept any form of criticism no matter how it is presented and that is on them. But it is on you to deliver the message in as tasteful and respectfully a manner as is reasonable. After that balls in their court. Don't stress to much about it. We can't prevent everyone from ever being offended. Only try to minimize it through presentation.
    100% agreed. There are some people who either can't take or don't want criticism. One of my friends, the nicest kindest woman I know in this game, tried suggesting to a tank in a dungeon to use flash in his rotation to help keep the adds from running to her on BLM. He just yells out "Don't tell me how to play!" and rage quits on her in the dungeon. No matter how polite you are there are some people that will still turn violent about it. People have to want help themselves or there isn't really anything you can do for them, or as they say you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
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