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    Why do people think dragoons don't dps well at all? The dragoon in my static hits usually within 40 of me as a monk and we're both pushing optimal DPS for our classes. I recognise there are a tremendous amount of horrible dragoons but that is no excuse to suddenly make them stupid OP. They already buff bards DPS as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth_Chikara View Post
    Why do people think dragoons don't dps well at all? The dragoon in my static hits usually within 40 of me as a monk and we're both pushing optimal DPS for our classes. I recognise there are a tremendous amount of horrible dragoons but that is no excuse to suddenly make them stupid OP. They already buff bards DPS as well.
    well lets see, he's usually 40 dps within you. Which is like 12-16 dps under you assuming one bard. He takes a lot more damage than you. He doesn't have dragonkick or mantra.

    Why would you ever take this dragoon instead of a monk? The monk will do everything he does but more mantra and more damage seeing as only one of you can keep up dragonkick and he won't take 123123 damage from magical attacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickyguo View Post
    well lets see, he's usually 40 dps within you. Which is like 12-16 dps under you assuming one bard. He takes a lot more damage than you. He doesn't have dragonkick or mantra.

    Why would you ever take this dragoon instead of a monk? The monk will do everything he does but more mantra and more damage seeing as only one of you can keep up dragonkick and he won't take 123123 damage from magical attacks.
    We're on turn 12 and I'm doing 520ish as a monk at i113 and he's well up there around 500 as i116, granted the ilevel difference, but knowing how to play your class makes a huge difference. In my opinion most dragoons are just bad at being dragoons. Sure buff their magic res, other than that I see no reason to make them dps as hard as a monk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth_Chikara View Post
    We're on turn 12 and I'm doing 520ish as a monk at i113 and he's well up there around 500 as i116, granted the ilevel difference, but knowing how to play your class makes a huge difference. In my opinion most dragoons are just bad at being dragoons. Sure buff their magic res, other than that I see no reason to make them dps as hard as a monk.
    500 dps drg? ACT pics or it didn't happened!
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    It's not the DRGs don't DPS(they put up respectable numbers). That is not the issue at hand, it's that they have been invalidated completely from competitive end game raiding and to many that seems unfair. I understand the points that many DRGs or players in general are not in competitive end game (myself included) but the very vocal minority of players that initiated the "Dragoons are now worthless why bring them to ANYTHING" mentality have created a chain reaction (albeit a toxic one at times) that has exploded into something far bigger then simply end game raid balancing.

    It's become an issue about power creeping, horrific imbalance and terrible foresight (bum dum tsss) on Square Enixs' fault.

    The whole issue of end game viability has simply brought to light a problem that has been amassing underneath the surface of the game.

    And in my opinion it's about damn time we got a response.
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