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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    I agree I think increasing the casting time of dive bombs (similar to the dragon im ST) will help greatly. After that everything else is relatively smooth sailing.
    Cast time on divebombs is already long enough. Changing timing is just going to throw off everyone else who is already able to do it and force them to re-learn content over a year old just because a few people have terrible reaction time?

    You can have bads go over into the other pit where they won't screw with the rest of the group, and nobody will care if they get hit or die cause it won't mess anyone else up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
    Cast time on divebombs is already long enough. Changing timing is just going to throw off everyone else who is already able to do it and force them to re-learn content over a year old just because a few people have terrible reaction time?
    And because this expresses my point of view on the topic... This. The timing will force players who already know the fight to relearn completely outdated content. I love helping my FC members and random PF peeps with their clears/farming needs. I want everyone to be done with T5...

    But if they do actually change the timing for Divebombs, I'm not relearning that portion of the fight. People are just gonna have to do it with people who are more used to that version of it.
    If they change it, I won't bother helping ANY of them anymore. I have to consider MY time as well and how I want to spend it considering that I have a full time job and other things pulling at my attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio View Post
    And because this expresses my point of view on the topic... This. The timing will force players who already know the fight to relearn completely outdated content. I love helping my FC members and random PF peeps with their clears/farming needs. I want everyone to be done with T5...

    But if they do actually change the timing for Divebombs, I'm not relearning that portion of the fight. People are just gonna have to do it with people who are more used to that version of it.
    If they change it, I won't bother helping ANY of them anymore. I have to consider MY time as well and how I want to spend it considering that I have a full time job and other things pulling at my attention.
    I hope your not being serious. It will be the same mechanics as before in which you still look for the green marker and listen for the ping noise then run out to same positions did before, wait till does the dive and head back in. It does not make it harder for you or me to adjust to it. Bringing up this whole you have a full time job and other things has no relevance, if having a second or so added between marking and bombing actually impacts such things in any way then you have a problem in general outside of the mechanics on that phase. Quite simply put it's mountains out of molehills and I hope your just overreacting or underestimating your own ability to handle or cope with something so minor and so simple rather than the other way around.

    There is plenty of time to head back in after it does the dive bomb if never got knocked half a screen away and that would not change if they added a second or so between the time it marks someone and when does the dive itself, nothing that matters much changes for those who have done it before except they would have more time to make their run outwards. I do not personally mind the current timer myself and have no problems with it at all these days but I would not be crying over increasing the time between mark and dive for those that still do or lying/misleading about how much it actually would impact those of us who have done it in what would then be consider the old way. Sure you would still get people messing up but it would be less people than before.

    When learning that phase no-one needs to remember how long they stay out of the pit for, you run out and wait for the dive then run back in of which it does not matter whether dive happens 5 seconds or 5 minutes after...you stay out of the pit until it does. You do not need to count the seconds when outside the pit you just need to see that the dive has happened and safe to run back in. Adding a second or so between the marking and diving does not make life harder or the mechanics harder at all, it makes it easier and anyone who claims they would struggle to adjust or spend a lot of time relearning it as far as I am concerned is either not as good as they think they are, perhaps overreacting or just underestimating their own competence.
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    Last edited by Snugglebutt; 11-14-2014 at 08:36 AM.