PVP class balancing from HELL

[Alberel]

The fix is to fix the damn casting interrupt on taking physical damage.

Seriously, every other MMO out there that had this 'feature' eventually removed it because casters are just plain gimped in PvP when a single player can completely shut them down. The original reason casting would be interrupted in older MMOs was because magic was inherently more powerful (so had greater risk/reward ratio). Here casters do no more damage than anyone else so the interrupt design is completely arbitrary and unbalanced.

NINs would not be steamrolling casters so easily if they were actually able to fight back against physical DPS in the first place.

[RiceisNice]

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Some games work around this by having damage cause pushback to spell casts, rather than straight up interrupt it. Granted there's also the issue for LoSing, but some games allow you to actively change where you're facing with directional buttons or right-click+scroll...but lol gamepad.

[MomomiMomi]

The fix is to fix the damn casting interrupt on taking physical damage.

Seriously, every other MMO out there that had this 'feature' eventually removed it because casters are just plain gimped in PvP when a single player can completely shut them down. The original reason casting would be interrupted in older MMOs was because magic was inherently more powerful (so had greater risk/reward ratio). Here casters do no more damage than anyone else so the interrupt design is completely arbitrary and unbalanced.

NINs would not be steamrolling casters so easily if they were actually able to fight back against physical DPS in the first place.

I honestly think the bigger issue is losing LoS by someone moving behind you. The interruption I can deal with, but this is really annoying.

[TheotherMarky]

I honestly think the bigger issue is losing LoS by someone moving behind you. The interruption I can deal with, but this is really annoying.

Exactly! okay so they can interrupt our cast, then at least give us time to prepare some tactics or planning when we see one coming. BUT NO they can be invisible and sneak up behind you, interrupting and stunning in a second and your dead. Big middle finger to caster from SE.

[Kassiekane]

The fix is to fix the damn casting interrupt on taking physical damage.

As a PvP healer, I disagree.

It's bad enough that I can tank 2 melees without a problem; and that's with the 100% interrupt.

The castors' dps shines in aoe. Black Mages use flare, Summoners spread dots. The amount of damage they can do when unchecked can far surpass that of a melee. They are not meant to go toe-to-toe with any physical attacking enemy.

Healers also need to be checked with interrupts, otherwise they'll never, ever, ever die.

Someone (can't remember who) before hit the nail on the head with this statement: "You have to fight for your casts." - and that's the whole point, castors needs help defending themselves from melees, otherwise why even roll a melee?

As far as the OP goes I agree that ninjas are overpowered, but for different reasons other than 'high dps'. I think the problem is that they have minimal weaknesses, and too many perks. They have stealth, sneak attacks, virtually no positional requirements, silences, stuns, dodges. where is their weakness? defense? sounds like a damn good trade-off to me.

[StouterTaru]

As a PvP healer, I disagree.

It's bad enough that I can tank 2 melees without a problem; and that's with the 100% interrupt.

The castors' dps shines in aoe. Black Mages use flare, Summoners spread dots. The amount of damage they can do when unchecked can far surpass that of a melee. They are not meant to go toe-to-toe with any physical attacking enemy.

Healers also need to be checked with interrupts, otherwise they'll never, ever, ever die.

You have clearly never played a BLM in PvP. AoE does not shine with incredibly long cast times and 100% interrupts. The closest thing you have is AoE sleep > LB.

[Morningstar1337]

You have clearly never played a BLM in PvP. AoE does not shine with incredibly long cast times and 100% interrupts. The closest thing you have is AoE sleep > LB.

There's also Flare but that's more kill a single target.

[Najara]

why even roll a melee?

Why roll anything other than a melee right now? They have a 30% self heal, stun/bind/heavy immunity/stuns/gap closers/can interrupt casting/removing buffs/lower INT/lower spellspeed, there is nothing they can't do right now. Casters are in a bad place.

So your saying Casters should be limted to running away and casting sleep ? is that what you are saying, this is fair. Get outta here

FINALLY. Someone who gets it.
This is actually what I feel people are trying to say in a recent thread I started,
I'm skill-less and Melee are meant to be better.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...nd-unnecessary

[Lux_Rayna]

Why should a caster be able to beat a melee in melee range? What you are asking for makes no sense. Why should a caster be able to infinitely kite everyone to death? Casters in most pvp games are OP. We have gotten so used to it that its normal.

What BLMs need is the ability to escape, or CC to slow melees down. If you lose range it *should* be your loss. Thats called balance.

[Najara]

Why should a caster be able to beat a melee in melee range? What you are asking for makes no sense. Why should a caster be able to infinitely kite everyone to death? Casters in most pvp games are OP. We have gotten so used to it that its normal.

What BLMs need is the ability to escape, or CC to slow melees down. If you lose range it *should* be your loss. Thats called balance.

Why are they NOT allowed? We're given Equinox for a reason and Right now there is Zero chance in victory in a fair one on one.
and
Even if you try to run, Weapon Throw has a 40% chance of stopping you