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    TheotherMarky's Avatar
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    Athena Faulkner
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50

    PVP class balancing from HELL

    I generally believe that SE take turns with classes being super buff in FL,

    Not having any clue what changes they do affect PVP. They seem to class adjust every other week in FL changing which class to be most potent.

    I personally think they have yet to nuke NINJA as they have nuked the rest of the classes. I personally find need for: http://i.imgur.com/S4zynnd.jpg?1


    This is an example of what i am talking about. A comment of reddit shows, this ninja is aware of how extreme this person can cut through casters and ranged in saying : "mmortal Flames decided to push everyone up to Adders and take their capture points (Allagan Markets and Serpent Outpost) and secure the win.
    This led to me picking of BLM/BRD and any healers who were running to recapture points, which led to an insane kill count."



    I am also flames yet i find this amount of kills almost disturbing, can SE really say THIS is fair ?!
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    HulveinBlitz's Avatar
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    Hulvein Wyrmblood
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    So.. tactics?
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    Parodine's Avatar
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    Cullen Dionysion
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 70
    NIN has a passive movement speed increase (which is killer), a passive 20% dmg up, and very few directional requirements for their main damaging combos. It's a major threat.

    The way SE has nerfed BLM into the ground in PVP, one would've thought that NIN would have pinged their radar, but I guess not. Hopefully one is coming.
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  4. #4
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    Athena Faulkner
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    It doesn't seem like tactics to me but a massive abuse of power. If it's not a fair and equal fight how is that using tactics it's plain thuggery. Ninjas know they are massively more power than casters and as seen from above they know how to abuse this power.
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    Alberel's Avatar
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 70
    The fix is to fix the damn casting interrupt on taking physical damage.

    Seriously, every other MMO out there that had this 'feature' eventually removed it because casters are just plain gimped in PvP when a single player can completely shut them down. The original reason casting would be interrupted in older MMOs was because magic was inherently more powerful (so had greater risk/reward ratio). Here casters do no more damage than anyone else so the interrupt design is completely arbitrary and unbalanced.

    NINs would not be steamrolling casters so easily if they were actually able to fight back against physical DPS in the first place.
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Famfrit
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
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    Some games work around this by having damage cause pushback to spell casts, rather than straight up interrupt it. Granted there's also the issue for LoSing, but some games allow you to actively change where you're facing with directional buttons or right-click+scroll...but lol gamepad.
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    Lhei Fox
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    Phoenix
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    well i face alot ninja on my drg i take them down before they even able cast there first jutsu, Ofc they might strong against caster but against other dps they soo squeeshy
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    Ultimatecalibur's Avatar
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Tagihi View Post
    well i face alot ninja on my drg i take them down before they even able cast there first jutsu, Ofc they might strong against caster but against other dps they soo squeeshy
    I play Paladin and kind of laugh when a solo ninja tries to gank me when I'm guarding the OP flag. I don't chase them when they run after I've beaten them within an inch of death, but I think of it as a net gain of 17+ in preventing the other GCs from taking our flag.
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    Athena Faulkner
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tagihi View Post
    well i face alot ninja on my drg i take them down before they even able cast there first jutsu, Ofc they might strong against caster but against other dps they soo squeeshy
    This is what i am saying, SE has basically made in impossible for casters but have stacked melee chances too high.
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    Momomi Momi
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    Behemoth
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    The fix is to fix the damn casting interrupt on taking physical damage.

    Seriously, every other MMO out there that had this 'feature' eventually removed it because casters are just plain gimped in PvP when a single player can completely shut them down. The original reason casting would be interrupted in older MMOs was because magic was inherently more powerful (so had greater risk/reward ratio). Here casters do no more damage than anyone else so the interrupt design is completely arbitrary and unbalanced.

    NINs would not be steamrolling casters so easily if they were actually able to fight back against physical DPS in the first place.
    I honestly think the bigger issue is losing LoS by someone moving behind you. The interruption I can deal with, but this is really annoying.
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